Re: RDp 8.5

I understand that some folks have had troubles with the debugger in RDP
8.5 (and 8.5.1). I personally have had very little trouble--even using
Debug Job jobs. I think people should give it a try and report any issues
(through official channels)--then if need be, roll back to 8.0 or use the
debugger that Vern references below. (I believe it was developed by the
folks in Rochester--I'm not positive about that.)

The biggest challenge I have is editing COBOL programs and clicking on in
the outline while in a split view. The first view is always repositioned,
not the last view in use. It's kind of an irritation, but not a show
stopper. I find the advantages of the new outlines (RPG and COBOL) to be
worth the latest release. I've not even had much trouble with memory
leaks. And I have at least one 18,000-line RPGLE program from a vendor.

If no one tries 8.5.1 and reports whatever issues are found, it'll be a
long wait to get things fixed. That said, go ahead and roll back or
whatever once you've given it a shot. Balance your time spent against any
possible frustrations you find.

wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 03/19/2013 09:57:37 AM:

wdsci-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Message from Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on Tue,
19 Mar 2013 06:42:12 -0500 -----

To:

Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Subject:

Re: [WDSCI-L] RDp 8.5

Y'all - there is another graphical debugger that works just like the one

in RDP. It's part of the Java Toolkit, where we get jt400. Here is a
link to the 7.2 PDF -

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v7r1m0/topic/rzamq/rzamq.pdf

This is developed by a different group from the Rational team, so far as

I know. It's just not integrated with RDP. Still, it might be a good
interim tool when there are issues with RDP's debugger. I used it a
while ago, when I just couldn't seem to get WDSC's debugger to work.
Probably mea culpa, but I didn't have time to fight with the thing then.

HTH
Vern

On 3/19/2013 6:10 AM, Ken Killian wrote:

Mark,

I installed the missing PTF for RDP 8.5, and still had issues

withDebug....

Ever since I rolled back to RDP 8.0, no more debug issues for me....
Except for the refresh of Monitor view. I just click on a

different view, and then back on the Monitor view. This forces a
refresh/Repaint. Not a biggie, and only happens occasionally on RDP
8.0. But, at least it works!

Maybe after service pack III, then they might resolve the debug

issues on RDP 8.5.1.

Or you could believe my old mentor, who told me "Real Programmer

don't Debug"...

<LOL> He was trying to get me understand code better, about 23

years ago... <smirk>

I have wasted too much time trying to work with RDP 8.5 debug

issues. Not worth my time.

Unless you have time to burn, I suggest you save your sanity, and

roll back to RDP 8.0.3.

Debug is supposed to SAVE your time, not waste time.

-Ken Killian-
RPGLE Developer

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] On Behalf Of Austin, Mark

Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:51 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio

Client for System i & iSeries

Subject: [WDSCI-L] RDp 8.5

Hi,

I have just tried using the SEP debug for the first time since

upgrading to 8.5 and I have been having several issues with it. My
program is a SQLCBLLE with a number of large internal tables (in
case this has anything to do with it). When trying to find out the
contents of fields I have received CPF7E10 messages - Internal error
occurred in two different ways. Firstly, when trying to use the
variables view and then when trying to add a table to the monitors view.

It does seem to me that this upgrade, on the debug side of things,

is a bit of a backwards step.

As what I'm working on is urgent I'm going to have to go back to

my previous release.

Best regards,

Mark Austin
IT Consultant
Universal Music Publishing Group
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