Curious question - You mean your company actually allows DEBUG on a
production job running on a production system? Your a lucky Guy but the
company is not so lucky. As you know with debug you can stiff User ID's
password. I realize this is a debug RDP issue and it needs to be fixed
for development environments. Debug is definitely a must for development
environments. But allowing the use of debug in the middle of the night to
fix a production job running on a production system. That is scary stuff.
From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 01/16/2013 07:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDP 8.5.1 debug problem: "Source not found."
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More information on this Debug program with "Source not found"
RDP 8.5.1: If I "Debug job", like my session: QPADEV0001, and click
Step-INTO, the debug works GREAT!
But...
RDP 8.5.1: When I say to debug a job current running in batch, then I get
the message: "Source not found."
RDP 8.3.0: So, I turned around and fire up RDP 8.0.3, and the "Debug Job"
works flawlessly! <Joy Joy>
So, RDP 8.5.1 got broke somehow on this release...
I often have job passing information around to different data-queues, so
the ability to debug batch job, has always been a great help to me.
Now, I must remember to fire up RDP 8.0.3, when called in the middle of
the night, and I need to debug a production job.
So, I ask the question again, is anyone else running into this problem
beside me? Where they can no longer debug a batch-job using RDP 8.5.1 or
RDP 8.5? It would be good to find out that I am NOT the only one.
:)
-Ken Killian-
(423) 510-3129
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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:24 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDP 8.5.1 debug problem: "Source not found."
Xuan and other users encounter the debug job source error,
Yes, I tried the DEBUG job alone WITHOUT the Service entry points.
I keep forgetting to try my old RDP 8.0.3 to debug jobs. But, when called
late at night, it is hard to remember. I had to restart the job several
times, to catch in debug. Often, I forget to put in the production user
name for debug with the "Service Entry points"...
For debugging for development, I love the Service Entry points. But, for a
job failure, the "Debug-Job" use to be GREAT, when it worked on RDP 8.0.3.
I just enter in the name. And leave the User & Job-Number as "*" to select
the current active job! Perfect!
Shucks, IBM site requires registration, which is understandable...
https://www-947.ibm.com/support/servicerequest/Home.action
You can use SR/PMR to report problems on nearly all IBM supported software
products
My company didn't purchase support. Out of approximately, 18 developers,
only about 4 of us RDP. The rest stick to RELIABLE SEU... <Big Frown>
Oh well, is anyone else running into this error, where the source Cannot
be found for "Debug Job"? Or am I the only one encountering this error?
If someone is a registered support customer, could they be as so kind to
enter in the PMR on this?
Thanks!
Last time I open a PMR, IBM was very helpful, but informed me that my
company didn't NOT purchase a service contract. Unfortunately, like a lot
of places, our budget is tight.
With less than 25% of the staff using RDP, it is hard to justify. But at
least we have the license for RDP!
I get the same thing from the other developers: "Why learn something new,
when SEU works fine, with NO ERRORS..."
But, I think I am slowly getting some developers, to at least try it...
I get the old excuse: "Never enough time to learn something new. It's
navigation is too hard to learn, etc..."
Okay, I will step down from my soap-box... <LOL>
-Ken Killian-
-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Xuan Chen
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 2:10 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDP 8.5.1 debug problem: "Source not found."
Hi Ken,
It is quite obvious, but just to confirm... SEP and debug currently
running job are debugging the same program?
Could you please open a PMR so I can look more into it? Thanks.
Thanks,
Xuan Chen, Problem Determination Tools for IBM i
(905) 413-3769 T/L 313-3769
xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx
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Hi,
Last night, I ran into the source not found for the source debug....
This is where I try to slam a current running program into debug, to view
select variables. And it cannot find the source. I get the error message
"Source not found"...
And yet, the "Service Entry Points" works fine. It can find the source....
<perplex look>
I tried search the email, and I could not find reported issue on this.
Please advise if I missed it...
I guess about 98% of the time, I use "Service Entry Point" instead of the
debug job. But, the Debug job should still work. It doesn't even work when
I manually put in the look up path. Very frustrating...
When trying to encourage other Developers to use RDP, it is discouraging,
when things do NOT work...
-Ken Killian-
(423) 510-3129
From: Ken Killian
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:37 AM
To: 'Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries'
Subject: RDP 8.5.1 debug problem: "Source not found."
Hi,
Using the RDP 8.5.1 to debug a job, it CANNOT find the source....
But, using the Service entry points, it DOES find the source....
Any idea why the debug job cannot find the source. I even tried adding the
ibm source file, and it still cannot find the source....
I get the "Source not found" and the "Edit Source Lookup Path..."
button...
Which shows my source files...
Am I missing something here? Has anyone else ran into this problem on RPD
8.5/8.5.1?
Not sure if a PMR/Trouble-ticket was open on this or not.
-Ken Killian-
(423) 510-3129
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mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Parkins
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:53 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Clientfor
System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Tips/Tricks for Installing RDp 8.5?
I have always used IBM Installation Manager to initiate the installation.
Seems to do the trick without a hitch. Worth updating IM first to the
latest version, (free download).
Brian Parkins.
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