Yeah, I am trying to get some of my co-workers to move out of SEU myself...
They seem to refuse to learn anything new, even though it helps them...
But, when tight time schedules are forced down your throat, you are stuck using what you know...
I have nudged a few towards RDP. And one actually came back to it, after being away from it for a while!
-Ken Killian-
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Thanks Rob, I will be able to use this to help plan a demo/class for my co-workers who are absolutely stuck in SEU.
Paul
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I went to
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/
and at the search box at the top right I typed in Rational developer for power.
The first hit was a free trial download
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/downloads/r/rdp/
Second was a "What's new"
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/products/rdp/release.html
Third was an overview
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/products/rdp/
But hold your horses! Check out the link entitled "Enterprise Modernization Sandbox for Power Systems" available at
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/downloads/emsandbox_power/index.html
There's a whole set of labs available! Check out the section "Scripted, hands-on exercises you can try in the Sandbox".
There's a good start.
Rob Berendt
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From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 12/18/2012 07:11 AM
Subject: RDP: Are we our own worst enemy?
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I changed the subject since I'm guessing that many people stopped following this thread.
I think Booth's comments below are awesome and this needs to be heard, which is why I changed the subject line. Please read and pay attention, especially to the last paragraph.
Rob Berendt
From: Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 12/17/2012 03:34 PM
Subject: Re: something unrelated
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Buck is on to something here. Are we, as a group, using the product the way we should or are we limiting ourselves with our own falsely imposed
constraints?
In reading Buck's comment, I'd concur that Rdp does in fact blow the doors off SEU. It is a great product. I do love what it does; it works, and it has so much more to offer than SEU. Mostly, that "more"
includes a future.
Where am I going with this? Well, it also occurs to me that Rdp no doubt does way more than i know, including lots of features I don't yet realize I need but we as an interest group are staying stuck in the 90s.
Where are the Youtube tutorials on how to get the most of Rdp? Where are the web sites with examples, screen shots, and tips and solutions?
Where is a ibrary of snippets (whatever they are)? I just did a Google search and what little there is is 2+ years old.
On 12/17/2012 2:00 PM, Buck Calabro wrote:
RDP blows the doors off of SEU, and I say that as a 25+ year veteran
of SEU. And frankly, it isn't a GUI vs green screen thing for me,
because the green screen XEDIT blew the doors off of SEU in the 1990s
and SEU has not changed since then.
This isn't a theoretical 'throw out the old at your peril' sort of
thing, it's an actual end-user's experience report, and it's not a
decision made on an emotional need to squee over the latest and
greatest, but on decades of actual use. RDP is not merely newer than
SEU, it's better than SEU. Yes, this is my opinion, and I it's my
hope that it is read as another data point and not a divisive line
between 'us' and 'them.'
--buck
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