Re: WARNING RDP 8.5 is BUGGY!! -- WDSCI-L

Thanks!

I change both RDP 8.0.3 & RDP 8.5 to 300-seconds, a.k.a. 5-minutes.

-Ken Killian-
(423) 510-3129

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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Xuan Chen
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 2:21 PM
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Cc: Alan Boxall
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] WARNING RDP 8.5 is BUGGY!!

Hi Ken,

Thanks for the attachment.

Could you please try to change the following Preference to see if it will make your situation better? Thanks.

Go to this Preference page:
Window -> Preferences -> Run/Debug -> Compiled Debug Change the "Time to wait for an engine response" to a larger interval (default is 15 second), or you can even change it to infinite.
Click OK to save the setting.

Thanks,

Xuan Chen, Problem Determination Tools for IBM i
(905) 413-3769 T/L 313-3769
xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx

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Sorry, I thought I attached it. Once again, this is actually RDP 8.0.3

-Ken Killian-
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] WARNING RDP 8.5 is BUGGY!!

Hi Ken,

Could you please send me the stack trace generated by running debugger in RDp 8.0.3? Thanks.

Thanks,

Xuan Chen, Problem Determination Tools for IBM i
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Wow, Just today, I had "(Not Responding)" on RDP 8.0.3 this morning, while debugging a new program...
<frown>

I navigate to this Directory, and ran the command:
C:\Program Files\IBM\SDP_1\rdpower>GenerateStack "C:\Documents and Settings \kkillian\IBM\rationalsdp\workspace"
command = generatestack
portNumber = 1231
A stack trace log is generated under your workspace successfully.

I will try RDP 8.5 LATER, now that I know how to generate a stack trace, when I get that "(Not Responding)".
<smile>

As typical, I have to hurry up and crank out some code...

-Ken Killian-
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] WARNING RDP 8.5 is BUGGY!!

Ken,

For the debugger hanging situation, I am wondering if you can help us to to get the stack trace when the hang occurs.

When the hang occurs, please go to the installation directory of RDp 8.5, for example:
C:\Program Files (x86)\IBM\SDP_RDp85
Then go to rdpower directory under it, and run the GenerateStack.bat file.
This is the syntax for running GenerateStack:

GenerateStack.bat "C:\Documents and Settings\user\IBM\rationalsdp \workspace"

(please replace the path in quote with your workspace full path)

And a stack trace file will be written out to the <workspace>\.metadata directory. Please send me the stack trace.

Thanks,

Xuan Chen, Problem Determination Tools for IBM i
(905) 413-3769 T/L 313-3769
xuanchen@xxxxxxxxxx

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Ken,

We are investigating a caching issue which Kurt refers to. It has been a difficult scenario to isolate. If you or anyone else experiencing the problem would be willing to help run with a patch that produces trace information for us please let me know.

If you are experiencing the caching issue, one thing to try is to turn off the preference for the Live RPG Outline and see if that helps the situation. The preference is 'Update the Outline view when text is changed in the editor' on the ILE RPG Parser preference page. Note: you do have to restart the product if you encounter the caching issue to reset.

For the issues with the Screen Designer and debugger, we would really like to help you with these so that the product is improved. The best way is to contact support.

Thanks,
Eric

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I have also encountered the "opening old cache" bug, and opened up a PMR.
They are working diligently on it. I'm praying for a fix in the next update.

-Kurt

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] WARNING RDP 8.5 is BUGGY!!

Hi,

I tried RDP 8.5, and it was "buggy"...

I created a BRAND-NEW Workspace, when I tried RDP 8.5

I tried to update a DDS Screen file, and it didn't update the source. Very strange. When I clicked on a field in the screen designer. The Properties window would not auto-fresh. I had to click on other tabs to force an update.

While debugging programs, my RDP 8.5 crashed way too often! It would lock-up for over 5-10 minutes, where I had to manually kill it.

And to top it off, when opening up the source, it open an old CACHE first of the source, that did NOT include recent changes. I NEVER had WDSC/RDI/RDP do that to me before! That was UNACCEPTABLE! I chase my tail, think we had SERIOUS problems, only to discover that RDP 8.5 had screwed up!!!

Anyway, I ended up rolling back RDP 8.0.3, where I do NOT run into any of the above issues.

I have been developing in RPG for over 20-years. And I had some "SEU-Fossils" state to me, we do NOT have those problems with "SEU". :(

For now, RDP 8.0.3 is working great. All other previous updates, I seemed to always notice better performance and features. Not the case with this release.

By the way, I use RDP 8.5 for over 30-days, before rolling back to version RDP 8.0.3

So... Be very carefully on this Version. No wonder why IBM did make it an auto upgrade, it is too buggy!

-Ken Killian-
(423) 510-3129

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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Essinger
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Question about upgrading RDP

Jack,

I installed RDP 8.5 by going to the IBM rational website, and downloading the trial. Once I installed the trial 8.5 on the 3 machines here in the office that already had a license, the software recognized the license, and the permanent license was active.

Search for IBM rational RDP in Google. The first hit I got was the right one.

Jim

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Jack Tucky <jacktucky@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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