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Re: Job Log Wrapping - caused by Live Outline?

That the queue is wrapping with "no messages" seems wrong to me.

Maybe someone on the midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx list can help.

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anderson, Kurt
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 8:29 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Job Log Wrapping - caused by Live Outline?

Jack - Yeah I'm in that unfortunate position where the wrapping is annoying someone, and I'm being asked to look into it. ;)

Gary - same result as what I tried earlier. Job log appears empty, but still get the message queue wrap message.

-Kurt

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Kingsley
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:24 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Job Log Wrapping - caused by Live Outline?

Either that or if you have support maybe you can open a call to IBM. Are you current on service packs and ptf's on both sides. The wrapping me just be more informational than problem-matic.


On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Anderson, Kurt <KAnderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

Ok, I see what you mean.

Here are the options:
*SAME
*SYSVAL
*NOWRAP
*WRAP
*PRTWRAP

So right now it's *WRAP. If I change it to *NOWRAP the job will end. I
could change it to *PRTWRAP... but that would mean a lot of reports
will generate simply because of the live outline running.

What I think needs to stop happening is for the job message queue to
not record every action that the live outline is performing. Is there
a way I can control that? As mentioned earlier, this didn't seem to do it:
CHGJOB JOB(802186/QUSER/QZRCSRVS) LOG(0 00 *NOLIST)

Maybe I should take this to the Midrange-L list, but I posted here so
those at IBM would be aware of this side-effect of the outline refresh.

-Kurt

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jack Kingsley
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:08 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Job Log Wrapping - caused by Live Outline?

I was thinking if you change this JOBMSGQFL for the job.
I don't have RDP currently.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Anderson, Kurt <KAnderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

Override it to do what? To not wrap? To not give a message when it
wraps? Even so - is there a way to modify the RDP jobs only?

-Kurt


-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jack Kingsley
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:41 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Job Log Wrapping - caused by Live Outline?

On the CHGJOB there is a keyword to override the wrap as well.

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Anderson, Kurt
<KAnderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

I gave it a try, but no luck.

CHGJOB JOB(802186/QUSER/QZRCSRVS) LOG(0 00 *NOLIST)

And verified that the job logging level was at 0.
Still had message wraps after opening a number of RPG source to
trigger the outline update. However, the job log itself was empty.

-Kurt

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jack Kingsley
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 2:59 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Job Log Wrapping - caused by Live Outline?

can you track your job down once it is active, if so change the
level to 0 and the queue max size just to see what happens, this
way your not touching the global system values. If it fixes it
then your all set at least while your connected, might be worth the test.

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Anderson, Kurt
<KAnderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

The job description is QZBSJOBD

Here is some info from the jobd, although I'm not sure if it helps:
Message logging:
Level . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 4
Severity . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 0
Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : *NOLIST
Log CL program commands . . . . . . . . . . . . : *NO
Job message queue maximum size . . . . . . . . . : 4
Job message queue full action . . . . . . . . . : *WRAP

I suppose we could increase the message queue maximum size...
although I tend to be a bit hesitant about changing system
values mainly b/c I don't have a few view of what all this will affect.

-Kurt

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jack Kingsley
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 2:45 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Job Log Wrapping - caused by Live Outline?

Wonder what is in the messages causing it to do this.\ Maybe you
can track down the jobd that this is using and change it.

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Anderson, Kurt
<KAnderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

Lately our shop has been very sensitive about various job logs
wrapping.

I'm being told that I'm causing some job log wrapping to occur.
I did a little testing, and it appears to be related to when I
open a RPGLE source and the live outline kicks off. The job
log in question is
filled with:
Client request - run program QSYS/QWCRTVCA.
Client request - run program QSYS/QVDEOBJL.
And every so often:
Ownership of object IDEnnnn in QTEMP type *USRSPC changed.

I think the wrap occurs after I open 3-4 RPG sources with
about 2k lines of code (that use a number of service programs).

Not to say this hadn't happened before. Maybe it did,
although possibly less often when it wasn't refreshing the
outline on every
source open.

Is there anything that can be done about this? Or is this
simply something that operations needs to live with?

-Kurt
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