I will agree also, have messed some with PDM and agree WDSC/RDP is a
wonderful enhancement to PDM. Luckily when I started they had just got
WDSC 5, so never really had to code much in PDM, so I probably don't
appreciate the enhancements of WDSC/RDP as much as other COBOL programmers
(What amazes me is I am still trying to get some to move to RDP). Still
just want to make sure the IBM i COBOL developer isn't completely forgotten
about on upgrades, since that is the hand I am dealt.:).
Jeff Buening
Sr. Developer
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Celina Insurance Group
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www.celinainsurance.com
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Hi Rick,
Good to have you here.
I am an IBM i COBOL developer of 25 years and despite the COBOL tooling
falling behind the RPG I must say that RDPi is the best tool I have ever
used and very much appreciate all the work that has gone into the product.
Thanks for explaining how it has evolved and I will, if I haven't already,
vote for all of the COBOL related RFEs. I do hope that more enhancement of
the IBM i COBOL tooling can be done.
Best regards,
Mark Austin
IT Consultant
Universal Music Publishing Group
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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rick Sawyer
Sent: 18 June 2012 20:01
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Fw: RDP 8.5 Announced
Hi everyone,
I just subscribed to this list starting today and looking through the
recent archives I saw this comment that I thought I should respond to.
I am a member of the RD Power development team, and I work on the AIX
COBOL tools.
When the AIX COBOL tools were being created at first, we were able to
take
advantage of the COBOL tooling that was created for System z. Although
this took some effort, it was relatively easy since the COBOL language
is
almost exactly the same for AIX and System z (the compilers share
parsing
technology). On the other hand, IBM i COBOL is significantly different
from AIX and System z COBOL. Now that we have a common COBOL tooling
component, with no system-dependencies, for AIX and System z, that does
make it a little easier to bring this to IBM i as well. However, that
said, with the significant language differences there is still a lot of
work that would be needed to bring the full set of tooling to IBM i.
A first step towards this kind of support would be bringing the outline
view up to the level of the AIX COBOL one. The best way to ensure that
you see COBOL enhancements is to vote for those RFEs. We really try to
please our customers, and we do listen, as we showed by delivering some
of
your most voted for RFEs in 8.5.
Rick Sawyer
Rational Developer for Power
IBM Software Group, Rational
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Re: [WDSCI-L] RDP 8.5 Announced
MichaelQuigley to: wdsci-l 06/05/2012 07:44
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Jeff,
As another small shop doing development in COBOL (near your neck of the
woods in central western Ohio), we can relate to your disappointment.
Here's a link to an RFE that would at least bring the AIX COBOL outline
to
our package:
[5]
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=10320
I don't know the internal workings, but it seems to me that it shouldn't
be too hard to bring the already developed functionality from the AIX
tools to the IBM i space.
Michael Quigley
Computer Services
The Way International
[6]www.TheWay.org
419 753-1222
wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 06/05/2012 03:28:22 PM:
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> on Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:11:04 -0400 -----
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> To:
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> Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
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> Subject:
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> Re: [WDSCI-L] RDP 8.5 Announced
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> So I am confused, as a small company not planning on going away from
COBOL
> anytime soon, are we going to get pushed to this AIX COBOL at some
point?
> Did IBM need to create an AIX COBOL for marketing purposes? Why did
AIX
> COBOL have to be created to get COBOL enhancements or COBOL RDP
> enhancements? As a younger programmer just trying to understand IBM's
> direction with COBOL.
>
> Jeff Buening
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