Sorry,
I know it's not your fault, BUT, We have been living with these STUPID names
for close to 20 years. I can only assume that it is on purpose and IBM does
not want the System 38, As400, Iseries, system I, SYSTEM I, OR WHATEVER to
survive. I think bill G bought them out.
Tom
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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Edmund Reinhardt
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:16 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] IBM is so confusing!
OK, I admit that IBM changes names way too often and we still don't get it
right.
I would much rather have stuck with the AS/400 name, instead of switching to
i Series/ IBM i/ i5 OS etc.
I also agree that IBM forces us to use cumbersome long names that are hard
to remember.
But there is some rationale to all of this.
Rational - means that this software is the IBM Brand that does application
development, as opposed to "WebSphere" for runtimes etc.
Developer - OK, so this software is focused on application development Power
- and we support development on any of the 3 operatings systems on the Power
platform - which is pretty cool.
the rest of the name, I wish they would just drop, but lawyers ...
Secondly, we are splitting the support on AIX between COBOL and C/C++.
Realistically these are two different audiences. One, coming from a
mainframe business perspective, the other from technical Unix perspective.
Unfortunately they wanted to name the IBM i tools in a consistent fashion
and started with the main business languages of RPG and COBOL, but yes there
is support for DDS, CL and C/C++ etc.
I agree the C/C++ support is not as advanced as the RPG support but that
also reflects the market share and demand. Keep submitting RFEs and we will
be able to justify moving the richer support from AIX over to IBM i.
Java is supported in the base Eclipse - and is the best IDE for that. I
depend on it heavily.
WebSphere/J2EE are shipped with our bigger cousin RAD
I know its not perfect, but we are trying to save you money and increase
your PC's performance by only installing and making you pay, for what you
are actually using.
HTH
Edmund
From: Scott Klement <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 01/27/2011 06:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] IBM is so confusing!
Sent by: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
So, the product is named "Rational Developer for Power Systems Software"
(which alone is too long and cumbersome to really use in a marketing
slogan... heck it might even be too long for an elevator pitch.) But by
itself, that name "Rational Developer for Power Systems Software"
doesn't actually /mean/ anything, because you also have to specify which of
the 4 options you want.
The options are named "RPG and COBOL Development Tools",from which,
apparently, we have to just assume it's for IBM i, because it doesn't say
that. We also have to know that it contains tools for other things besides
RPG and COBOL (DDS, CL, C, C++, etc) because the name doesn't say that
either. Why wasn't this option named "Development tools for i"
or something similar?!
The other three options tell which languages on which platforms, but are
there more that they don't list?
At any rate, the whole thing is confusing the point of being unwieldy.
It takes a 15 minute talk to understand the name of the product.
And how does Java/J2EE/Websphere/HTML fit into all of this?
On 1/27/2011 11:53 AM, Edmund Reinhardt wrote:
Hi Scott,
The product name is: Rational Developer for Power Systems Software And
there are 4 separately licensable parts to it.
1) RPG and COBOL Development Tools
2) COBOL Development Tools for AIX
3) C/C++ Development Tools for AIX
4) C/C++ Development Tools for Linux
So option 1 corresponds to what used to be available with RDi and WDSc.
The remain options are new function targeting other operating systems
that
also run on the Power hardware.
HTH,
Edmund
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