I do realize comparing Netbeans GUI Designer to the Screen Designer isn't
the best comparison. I was mainly just pointing out that I've had a better
experience with it than screen designer and screen designer is creating MUCH
more simple screens.

I can get reference fields to work, they just work really slow when
rendering. I do about 98% of my work remotely, so that could be the issue.
Also, it will only allow me to enter fully qualified reference fields, e.g.
I have to put *LIBL for the library list and *FIRST for the member. The
trouble with that is it won't compile, at least at 5.4 haven't tried in 6.1
now that I think about it, so I have to go in and manually remove all those.
Again, not really a big deal, but kind of annoying.

Oh, and I try to avoid anything that has to do with JSP's although it
doesn't always work out so well for me. I keep ending up having to maintain
them :-) The eclipse(or RAD) JSF editor is not nearly as nice as it is in
Netbeans. Of course I don't use any kind of visual editor.

James R. Perkins

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 22:18, Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From James Perkins:
Can't say I've been very impressed with it either. Seems like it
be that hard to get right. It's all fixed position character based
It's also painfully slow if you use reference fields. I think Netbeans
visual editor is far better and it creates complex Java Swing UI.

I don't have any problems with reference fields. In a window. In a
subfile. No problems at all. And comparing Netbeans to Screen Designer
is apples to kumquats. The Rational JSP designer is quite nice, and the
Rich UI designer is unparalleled. But for knocking out green screens,
RDP works very well.

I don't think IBM really cares and I'm not sure they really should. It's
really not that difficult to hand-code display files and frankly they
probably just die off anyway. Before anyone gets too irritated with me,
I realize for pure data entry it's faster, but it's still ugly. :-)

Green screens also work remarkably well with scanners and RF devices.
They're eminently suited for places where you don't want your iPad to
go. :)

I will say I haven't had the problems you described though.

Me neither. I don't know, maybe I'm just used to working with the
tool. I usually make minor modifications in source mode and wholesale
changes in design mode. I switch back and forth between source and
design modes with a single click and it works wonders for me. Can't do
that with SDA.

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