Re: RDp v7.5

Joe - disagreeing with you is not an attack.

You clearly stated that "screens" is something we've not had - that is the statement I quoted. That statement is simply not true. Saying that the article was only about SDA and Screen Designer does NOT get around the truth that the "screens" idea HAS been around. That is about the extent of my original post, as I recall.

Your insistence that I must not bring CODE into the conversation does nothing to take away from the fact that the concept of "screens" has been available.

I felt that you presented the new product well - I stated that clearly in my OP. The screens thing was about my only problem with the article.

If you made a mistake, or if there is more information in the world than you presented, OK - that's how it goes sometimes.

Vern

Joe Pluta wrote:

Vern Hamberg wrote:

Jon

You're not responding to Jon, Vern, you're attacking me. Have the courtesy to do so directly.

I agree that there isn't that much new in Screen Designer. My post about Joe's article - well, I believe I quoted something that said the idea of "screens" is something we haven't had.

Something that was comparing RDPi to SDA. Clearly and specifically. One of the big knocks against WDSC and RDi was the lack of a replacement for SDA. It's there now. That was my point. Miss it and the rest of this argument becomes futile.

Well, we HAVE had it, as you know - and since at least 1998 in the CODE Designer.

CODE is dead. I wasn't comparing to CODE. CODE is dead.

This cannot be mitigated by saying you are comparing only SDA and Screen Designer. The fact is, the concept of screens is NOT new, it HAS been around for years.

Not in SDA. Most green screen programmers use SDA, not CODE. I was comparing to SDA.

The Screen Designer might be rewritten from the ground up - but its design is very much like that of CODE Designer - I have looked at the technology preview and find it has so much of what CODE has. The interface is about the same.

While the functions are the same, Screen Designer is about as different from CODE as it can be. It's Eclipse-based. It uses properties. It has a drag-n-drop palette with accordion selection. It uses tabs, not a ring of documents. It's a different beast.

But again, I wasn't comparing to CODE, I was comparing to SDA.

There has been an argument that RDi 7.5 was a complete rewrite. Yes, perhaps under the covers. But the appearance, the interface is not all that different. And the rewrite has not justified moving to it for many folks. There have to be other factors to make it worth moving to, IMO.

I never said that RDPi is vastly different than RDi. I in fact noted that the Screen Designer in RDPi is very much like the Screen Designer in WDSC.

However, at the risk of repeating myself yet again, I was not comparing Screen Designer to CODE, I was comparing it to SDA. I don't know many people who used CODE. I sure didn't.

Joe