Joe wrote: "RDi is $700 for the initial license and $140 bucks a year
per seat."

Really? It's the first time I've heard that pricing. If we can get that
pricing from our business partner, it would go a long way in encouraging
our managers to get RDi for everyone.

I should probably try to get out to DevCon in October and check out the
Web Development track. We've just started looking at PHP. It might be
good to get a bigger picture.


-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:22 AM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] justifying RDi when WDSCi 'still works'

Kelly, you may have seen my other post in this thread where I said there

is no reason to switch from WDSC to RDi *if your pushback is based
solely on price/benefit*. However, it's my contention that you as a
developer not only need to move to RDi, but you need a seat of RDi-SOA
in the house as well (because you get all the great web stuff in there).

First, WDSC (and thus RDi) is much more productive than SEU. Whether
it's colored source, more lines per page, Outline view, content assist,
you name it it's better in the GUI tools. Yes, folks complain about
this feature or that not being there, but that's compared to other GUI
tools, certainly not to SEU. SEU, in a word, sucks. Yes, it's
functional, yes, it's fast, but so is Notepad. Why don't you write your

word processing documents in Notepad?

Second, it's not that expensive. It'RDi is $700 for the initial license

and $140 bucks a year per seat. Are you not worth that? I mean
seriously, if you save 40 hours in a year, you've more than paid for the

cost of the seat, no? I guarantee you can save an hour a week just
using the Search capabilities.

Third, get one seat of RDi-SOA and start playing with the GUI. I'm
starting a project that I'll be blogging about over at the EGL Cafe
where I am going to use RDi-SOA in my spare time to create some web
applications. I do mean my spare time - I have a full-time gig and a
five-year-old starting kindergarten. I'll be lucky to get a few hours a

week for this project. But I'll be writing web applications and at
least some of them will use *only* the Apache server and no WebSphere at

all. You might want to get the trial version of RDi-SOA and follow
along; I absolutely believe that anybody on this list will be able to
write some very cool web applications without a whole lot of time

Anyway, enough for now. I gotta go meet the boy's new teacher.


I see your point about IBM shooting themselves in the foot with the
structure/pricing they're putting in place. Why not just go back to
SEU\PDM and make the switch to RDi when some distant OS release
breaks them? Save the licensing fees for RDi until then.


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