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On 9-Jan-09, at 10:13 AM, wdsci-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Jon and Joe have more exposure than I do to people moving from SEU to
WDSC, but I'd say it doesn't take an SEU person more than an hour or two
to be able to make a filter, edit a member and compile it all on his
own, no assistance.

Well I think it takes more than an hour or two ... but certainly not 90 days. You can learn it in a hour or two, but in my experience it won't stick unless the exposure is more in-depth. Of course a lot depends on how they were taught <grin> and how much peer pressure there is on them to not drop back into old habits!

We find the biggest challenges are:

A) Convincing them that they _can_ do everything as fast or faster in RSE than SEU if they learn to use the tool properly so that they don't have the "I'll just drop back into SEU for this one quick change" mentality. Of course in a few rare cases it is true - but if they adopt that mentality from the outset they will never gain the familiarity with the tool that they need to really understand the productivity boost.

B) To not try to do everything the "SEU way" - in some ways the CC, DD, etc. SEU commands are a negative as it invites the "I use CC to copy between members - stupid tool I won't use it" mentality.

C) Dealing with team members who are determined that it is a waste of time and doesn't give them anything that SEU doesn't have. Which is horse-hockey, but it is hard to convince someone who's perspective is not based on a rational perspective in the first place. Bit like trying to convince a hard-core Republican/Democrat that someone who supports the other party is not inherently evil!

If we are teaching RSE it is a two day class which includes everything up to and including customizing the workbench, keyboard shortcuts, filters, screen and print design, debug, etc. etc. If combining it with RPG skills enhancement etc. we cut down to a day to a day and a half and force (yes force) them to use the tool for all class exercises so that they get extra "real world" experience using the tool.

Jon Paris

www.Partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com



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