Re: ADTS V6R1 - No SEU updates?

Ha, " sexy screens" have lured many into a relationship that ended badly.
And so has the promise of saving a penny. the company i work for is hard at
work building plans to retire their iseries: 20 years of business logic
going to be magically rewritten and data converted in 12 months onto a new
platform. I suspect Mr. Lau's words of wisdom might serve them well.

Meanwhile, twenty plus iseries programmers are preparing to hit the streets
with resume in hand. 'our' company will not cross train but they will
outsource (and IBM global is helping them do it: throwing away IBM hardward
for a software contract based overseas).

Granted, they didn't really need 20 + iseries programmers (some empire
building got out of hand..and that is one issue that retiring the iseries
will solve).

But they do need the 20 years of business logic buried inside those RPG
programs. And they are going to throw a lot of that away. as Mr. Lau points
out, in the end "it's the business logic, stupid", not the sexy screen, nor
the IDE.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Wai Hung Kevin Lau <whkevinlau@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Mark,

Few years ago, I worked on a project to phase out the AS400 and move to
Powerbuilder by a software house. The result is that we had 3 losers:
Users, IBM and developers. Spending a lot of money but the result was very
very very bad. I'm not saying Powerbuilder is shit. I was certified
Powerbuilder developer. I like it. The problem was those sales people
always show you a sexy screen click click click ... simple to create a
screen. Piece of cake!!! Two years, you would have an art of state
technology system. The users and top managements were just crazy for the
"Sexy screen". However, you are talking about to convert a system built for
more that 10 years. How complicated were those business logics? Of
course, the project was implemented because we couldn't let this issue to
board of directors. Everybody got award. No matter what was the bad
result. IBM lost one customer. Users had to do a lot of manual works.
Developers had to learn a so
call new technology and gave up the solid and worked skill set.

Visual Studio is just another tools. It cannot help you to convent the
existing business logic. I suggested you really think about it before you
reach the point of no return. Just my suggestion.....

Kevin


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From: Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen <thunderaxiom@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:56:15 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] ADTS V6R1 - No SEU updates?

Mark Allen skrev den 15-02-2008 18:34:

Just glad I don;t have to decide (SEU WDSC RDi) It's gonna be Visual

Studio

here soon.....................

Just out of curiosity. Since you cannot deploy .NET stuff to the
AS/400, what is the benefits you are intending to get by using Visual
Studio? Writing thick clients running on the users PC's?

This is not flamebait - I would genuinely like to know.

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