Joe,
Well I wondered where you were getting all those unfamiliar TLAs like
"RDi". It is a little more clear now, thanks. My apologies if you already
explained everything and I simply didn't understand the first time...
My earlier post was based on the "IBM Software Delivery Catalog US 2008"
which arrived in yesterday's mail and advertises many other tools for the
Rational suite. Anyone for D59BQLL "Rational Build Forge Enterprise
Edition" at only $165K per server? It appears as though System I folk have
a significantly different route to EGL than the off-the-shelf price.
JK
On Wed Jan 30 15:28 , Joe Pluta sent:
johnking@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Aaron,
>
> RBDE (Rational Business Developer Extension) is the Rational 'plug-in'
> that contains the EGL tools. This is in addition to whatever the IDE
will
> end up costing.
>
John, there is no RBDe anymore. At least not as far as System i
developers go (although now I have to admit I'm not sure how it works
with RAD, the non-System i Rational Application Developer). Anyway,
there will be RDi which will be priced roughly equivalently with ADTS,
the green-screen tools, on a per-seat basis. So basically, they've
unbundled SEU/PDM/SDA and then given you an option on whether you want
green screen or GUI tools. Your choice. I suspect that they may even
price ADTS a bit higher, as an incentive to get you to RDi.
But base RDi has NO web application development tools. Enough System i
customers have convinced IBM that there is a significant base of System
i users that have no interest in and will never move to web
development. And so, in order to keep a sort of parity, IBM now has in
effect created a GUI development suite for green screen developers. I
don't get it, but that's what the new announcement gives you. The good
news is that this suite is comparably priced to the old suite,
especially if you have few developers and don't need OPM compilers.
However, web development costs extra. I don't know if it's going to be
$1000 a seat or $2000 a seat. It could even be more, or less, but my
guess is somewhere in between (although that could just be wishful
thinking on my part). Anyway, for that, you get RDi-SOA, which includes
all the web development tools you saw in WDSC such as WDHT. More
importantly, it will include the EGL tooling as part of the package.
Hope that helps clear things up a bit.
Joe
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