But at least the dealership didn't charge you for everyone that was
going to drive your car!
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On Behalf Of Faizulla Khan
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:02 PM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] IBM Rational Developer for System i V7.1
Well when I bought my car they never told me I had to put gas in it. In
fact the dealership filled the tank up before they handed me the keys.
:))
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Faizulla Khan
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617-346-6058
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It's like FORD selling you cars for years and years and then after
you've
become dependent on them, they start charging separately for the use of
the
steering wheel and seats.
"Well of course you CAN buy one of our cars with out a steering wheel or
a
seat...but really...wouldn't you miss it now that you've gotten so used
to
it? What's another few hundred dollars anyway?"
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Behalf Of Bob P. Roche
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:29 AM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] IBM Rational Developer for System i V7.1
I guess WDSC7.0.0.4 is the last I will use. I can barely get my boss to
try WDSC, and was just getting a few more programmers involved. Adding a
per seat cost will kill it here, Guess I need to get my SEU skills up to
date again. : (
I knew better than to expect anything to be included in system cost with
IBM, or should I say the Rational group. First EGL and now WDSC, are
they
really trying to kill their own products, or do they just have no clue
about System i customers.
Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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And so it begins... <grin>
Okay, here's the deal. WDSC 7 is the last version of WDSC. It is also
the last "free" version of development tools for the System i. With the
new announcement, IBM has now unbundled server-side tools (the
compilers) and developer tools. The developer tools are broken into
three basic areas: green screen, Eclipse tools for green screen, and web
tools.
The green screen tools are the old PDM/SEU/SDA you know and love, which
IBM still calls ADTS for lack of a better term.
The Eclipse tools are the parts of WDSC used to develop green-screen
programs, such as the LPEX editors for i5/OS languages, the screen
design aid, and so on. This new tool is now known as RDi, Rational
Developer for System i.
The full web tools include all of the tooling for web development,
including Java development, web page design (including JSF), HATS, and
of course EGL.
While pricing is not yet established, ADTS and RDi will be per-seat
licenses (think more than $100 and less than $1000 per seat). I'm still
a little unclear as to whether a current license will get you any seats
of RDi, but I think we'll hear more about that in a couple of months.
Joe
James O'Sullivan wrote:
Just got this IBM announcement email about the next version of WDSC.
Am
I
reading this right that there will now be a per user charge?
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an
&app
name=iSource&supplier=877&letternum=ENUSZP08-0123
Has anyone else heard anything about this?
regards
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