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Dennis Rootes wrote:
Well, if that was directed at me I'd like to point out that I wasn't complaining or ranting. I simply said that I understand why purely green screen programmers feel the way they do about WDSc, and gave my opinion that until WDSc can do everything inside the IDE without requiring people to switch out to a green screen, I personally feel that it won't gain acceptance to the regular green screen programmers. Why should they switch when the green screen does everything they need?

I agree with the final sentence, very much.

However. I think it can be phrased a bit differently: 'What do they _expect_ that WDSC will do for them?' The emphasis on expectations. I'm glad to see your expectation above: '...until WDSc can do everything inside the IDE...' because it leads to a productive discussion.

In the case of '...until WDSc can do everything inside the IDE...' I think that this expectation will never be met, ever. I never held that view, and possibly, that's why I happily alt-tab between emulator and IDE, just as I used to alt-tab between emulator-session-with-editor and emulator-session-to-test.

I don't mean that as a knock on your opinion - with a drawer of CDs, a menu bar of icons and a bewildering array of new vocabulary terms to come to grips with, I'd have pretty high expectations, too. The reason I don't have these sorts of expectations is that I've been using a GUI editor for a long time.

WDSC is not a PDM-killer. It is a pretty good IDE, slightly better than PDM because of more screen real estate and coloured tokens. That's it. For an RPG programmer, the bulk of WDSC is a waste of disk space. When veteran SEU users load up WDSC and they expect it to just kill SEU, they will be underwhelmed and be very tempted to shelve WDSC. Why learn all that... stuff when there's no discernible advantage?

Well, WDSC is not a PDM-killer. It's a PDM alternative. I think that if more people approached WDSC with that philosophy in mind, they'd be happier trying it out.

I agree with everything you've said, and I think the key to adopting WDSC is setting reasonable expectations, or perhaps accepting the product for what it currently is, rather than what people think it promises to be in the future.

Very best regards,
--buck

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