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dont know [RCP in WDSCi 7] if its functional enough to be used

I don't believe it is.

The STW and JFace documentatoin is left out of the product so you won't
get any development support for the editor.

The source for Eclipse is left out of the product so PDE can't give you
help with implementing extentions.

I openned two PMRs as to why no SWT / JFace documentatoin and why PDE
behaved differently in WDSCi 7 than in Eclipse 3.2 and that is what IBM
told me.





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Aaron,

Our company wrote a medium size application to interface with our ERP
system in RCP. They indeed had to use base eclipse because of the lack of
support up to this point. I thought I saw some RCP references in V7.0 but
dont know if its functional enough to be used by us. Will keep everyone
posted though.

Don Nitke
Sr. P/A
Friedman Corp.

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From:
"albartell" <albartell@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:15 PM
To: "'Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries'"
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] How different is v7 from v5 ?

I have been seeing news tidbits in regards to RCP for awhile now but
haven't
had the time to dive in. Mostly because I haven't needed to develop a
thick
client app that would be as "thick" as the Eclipse RCP would make it.
Maybe
that is what I should use for my article instead of trying to write
something from scratch using Matisse. ??? Hmm... Now I have a dilema :-)

I have seen companies develop their client using Eclipse as their base
(even
before RCP came out). I believe it was an EDI software vendor. It was real
nice as you had zero idea you were in a Java app. The only reason I knew
was because I had used Eclipse before then.

Anyway, I don't have much to say about RCP but would love to hear about
others attempts!

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

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On
Behalf Of DeLong, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 2:58 PM
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Aaron, do you have any feelings about support for Eclipse Rich Client
Platform applications? It seems like it would save a great deal of
time....

Eric

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[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of albartell
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 2:44 PM
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Hopefully Aaron will chip in here.

Can't ignore a call to action! (even if you meant a different Aaron) :-)

If you are going to do thick client Java development (which I have done
some, but a significant amount) then WDSC 6.x and 7.x will work for you
(not
sure about 5.x). I am doing an article coming up in SystemiNetwork where I
need to build a sample thick client Java app to exemplify RPG component
re-use and I was planning on using some Matisse for that.

Some potentially good reading about Matisse which could be termed "Next
generation Swing":
http://www.developer.com/java/ent/article.php/3589961
http://www.myeclipseide.com/module-htmlpages-display-pid-5.html

With that said I plan on using my license of myeclipseide.com ($30/yr) to
build the app with Matisse.

On a final note, WDSC 7.x has example Java thick client applications you
can
look at. Go to Help->Samples Gallery and then Technology
Samples->Java->SWT...

HTH,
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

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On
Behalf Of Buck
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 2:05 PM
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However, the abstract for the book refers to the "new" WebSphere
Studio 5.0. My question for the list, is how dated will this material
be? I expect the java beans / thick client stuff will have maintained
it's relevancy, but how much has the WDSC tooling changed in these
areas?
For instance, would you expect I would be able to follow along with
the examples from the book?

WDSC 5.0 is based on an antique version of Eclipse. WDSC 7 is based on
Eclipse 3.2. If you're basically doing Java, you may want to look at an
Eclipse book.

Not at all sure what WDSC brings to the table for a pure Java developer
because I'm an RPG guy. Hopefully Aaron will chip in here.
--buck

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