Re: George Farrdeclares featurespecificpricingonhorizonfor WDSC

I agree with the idea of the an ILE language development environment
that uses  a "new" DDS but the delivery is switchable between either a
windows-like GUI or  Web Browser depending upon what the customer wants
to run. If they need to deliver GUI in a Window or Citrix model, they
use the windows mode. If in a web mode, they use the browser. This ILE
environment would allow (traditional RPG, COBOL, JAVA and whatever comes
along in the future) languages to hide the complexity of HTML, AJAX, JSP
and let the user put the data on the screen. I think a screen-design aid
would be part of this but it should be included and not an up-charge
from the compilers etc. Another 2-cents worth heard from. 

Rick Flagler     

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On Behalf Of albartell
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 1:49 PM
To: 'Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] George Farrdeclares
featurespecificpricingonhorizonfor WDSC

Being that you know so much about me and what I will and wont use... :-)

What exact IBM technology are you talking about?  

I am guessing you mean VARPG, which I wouldn't count as 'native' because
you essentially have RPG.NET (ASNA) as far as I can tell.  And if memory
serves me right, VARPG doesn't keep up to date with the latest releases
of the RPG complier which gives obvious indication of how IBM views the
product.  I am sure there are a number of other drawbacks with VARPG
just as there are with Webfacing (read Java).  I want to re-emphasize
that if it isn't native it wont last.  Of course if we are running
"thick client" something has to NOT be native, but that is where the
smart client concept could come into play
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_client).

To expound on my dreams of RPG, this thick client capability would use
the concept mentioned above (i.e. smart client) and would simply give
the RPG programmer a set of UI components that are created and fully
supported by the RPG compiler team.  There would of course be a new
version of DSPF DDS that looks nothing like it's fore fathers (more so
for broad programmer acceptance - which would mean free form would be
essential, or rather anything non-cryptic). 

Aaron Bartell 


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On Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:32 PM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] George Farr declares
featurespecificpricingonhorizonfor WDSC

You already have the thick client solution, and have for over 10 years. 
  Its RPG, its easy to migrate your applications, and it uses your
existing data and skill sets.

But you won't use it.

albartell wrote:
....

Imagine having a RPG native way to create browser and thick client 
apps from the iSeries!  The probability of this happening 'natively'
is less the more I hear George talk though.  ...

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