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and as this list points out, IBM's feet should be held to the fire for the wdsc problems. Having watched Microsoft's Roadshow demo crash 4 times<then reboot> I don't find either's desktop development tools to be exemplary.
jim----- Original Message ----- From: "derhamj" <derhamj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "'Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries'" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Code/400 Install Vista
Who said anything about going into production, we are just starting to pealthe onion so we can keep the "heat" on both parties. Vista is here and it will be here for some time and if you don't use it, even in testing, then you can't tell them that's broken. Have you ever know a programmer ordeveloper who is will to test his/her code until it breaks? They just don'tmake the dumb key strokes that users do. Communication or lack there of is at the heart of all of these problems. So let's say that I am in a forced communications mode. Jack Derham -----Original Message-----From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] OnBehalf Of Jim Franz Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 12:54 PM To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Code/400 Install VistaIBM did post the iSeries Access issues (on the iSeries Access home page longago - warning users that MS was still "changing" Vista) http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/access/supportedos.html The MS changes in Vista has broken code for everyone, including IBM. The web is littered with statements and postings from other vendors. The problem is not that MS didn't provide pre-release code...it's that the pre-release code and final release code is not the same & some of the differences can be substantial. I must say, if a company in the "development" business wants to start aproject with Vista - go for it - be a pioneer. A production environment hasno business using Vista yet - there is not an OS in the world , on any platform, that is stable in the first few months. I would not load MS, i5/Os, Aix, Oracle, Mac, or any other right now. Ignore the IBM world, &look at all the problems with Vista in the rest of the computing community. Daily problems. Early adopters in a production environment should have theirhead examined....and their priorities...</rant> jim----- Original Message ----- From: "derhamj" <derhamj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: "'Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries'" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Code/400 Install VistaWe did and we checked it from the MS side but I am unaware that IBM offered and advise as to how to check if WDSC or iSeries Access would work. Maybe they did and I missed it in the mass of information flow or maybe they didn't and just thought that the crows would just continue to sit on the wires. Jack Derham Direct Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ryan Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:36 AM To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Code/400 Install Vista One thought would be to check software requirements before installing a new operating system. On 2/19/07, derhamj <derhamj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Isn't that just grand news! I suppose everyone will be blaming MS for pushing forward. Will IBM ever wake up or have they been dead for yearsandjust looking for a place to get buried. Jack Derham Direct Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]OnBehalf Of Violaine Batthish Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 7:34 AM To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Code/400 Install Vista Hey Andy, CODE/400 does not support Vista. Actually, WDSC is also currently unsupported on Vista as well. thanks, Violaine Batthish WebSphere Development Studio Client, IBM Toronto Lab wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 02/19/2007 06:50:07 AM: > Hi all > > >> Having problems trying to install the additional WDSCi tools onto a > new> Vista machine, but get the following error on install 'Java reports > Windows > > NT (unknown) as the name of your OS. This OS is not supported' > > WDSC 6.0 installed just fine onto Vista. > > Anyone else seen this? > > > > Many thanks > > Regards > > Andy Youens | Senior IBM Consultant | formaserve systems ltd > ( 01908 609500 | 2 07770 380276 | http://www.formaserve.com > <http://www.formaserve.com/> > -- This is the Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries (WDSCI-L) mailing list To post a message email: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/wdsci-l or email: WDSCI-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/wdsci-l. -- This is the Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries (WDSCI-L)mailing listTo post a message email: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/wdsci-l or email: WDSCI-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/wdsci-l.-- This is the Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries (WDSCI-L) mailing list To post a message email: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/wdsci-l or email: WDSCI-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/wdsci-l. -- This is the Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries (WDSCI-L) mailing list To post a message email: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/wdsci-l or email: WDSCI-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/wdsci-l.-- This is the Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries (WDSCI-L) mailing list To post a message email: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/wdsci-l or email: WDSCI-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/wdsci-l. --This is the Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries (WDSCI-L) mailing listTo post a message email: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/wdsci-l or email: WDSCI-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/wdsci-l.
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