Re: EGL components

I got that.  I read the documentation, your articles, and other references.  
The point I was trying to make was that *after* IBM unbundles EGL from RAD, I 
wouldn't be surprised if the add-on version is bundled into WDz and WDSCi by 
default.  If that decision hasn't already been made, it's probably something 
that customers who have invested in EGL need to yell about.
 
As far as SQL, I agree on it not being quite good enough for business logic, 
but it's not the language itself that's a problem.  The problem is that each 
command goes through the CLI, which imparts significant overhead.  JSF looks 
very impressive in its own right.  I'm not sure a 4GL can do enough to make 
sophisticated user interfaces possible (particularly now that the paradigm 
seems to be shifting to Ajax which requires more event-oriented processing).

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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Joe Pluta
Sent: Wed 11/1/2006 4:57 PM
To: 'Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] EGL components



EGL is already a part of WDSC.  It's included in the standard edition (with
the exception of the COBOL generation piece).  I've written a whole series
of articles on the tool in MCPress Online; last Wednesday's was on the UI
generation capabilities.

It's a powerful tool, with a great affinity for Java Server Faces (JSF) and
a high-level language that generates Java code and SQL access, which I don't
find to be powerful enough for business logic.  However, you CAN call RPG
from EGL quite easily and I've been working with the EGL team to try to get
persistence in that call mechanism.

All that being said, the unbundling of EGL from WDSC will mean that anybody
who want to use the language will need to get approval from management for
an additional line item for iSeries development, which is a really, really
bad idea.

Joe

From: Dean, Robert

My mistake.  I was combining what you said with what someone else said
about it being available only in AE.

At any rate, Rational's representative at the WebSphere Tech Exchange said
that they consider i and z Business Developers strategic.  I wouldn't be
suprised if EGL is selected to be part of the WDz and WDSCi products in
the same way that Remote Systems Exporer is included.

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