Re: Eclipse/RAD/WDSC enhancement plans

The link to the Rational Open Beta site is:
 
https://www14.software.ibm.com/iwm/web/cc/earlyprograms/rational/desktop70O/
 
Just to emphasize, only try to download this if you have a fast connection or a 
download manager.  It's 5GB.

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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Dean, Robert
Sent: Tue 10/31/2006 9:51 AM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Eclipse/RAD/WDSC enhancement plans



They released the beta of the tools platform (Rational Software Architect, 
which is a superset of RAD) this month.  They expect the full release in 
December.

I'd recommend downloading the beta and taking it for a spin.  If there are 
features missing, let Rational know about them so they can get them into the 
next release.  The other part of the reason they're componentizing the platform 
is that they're looking to stay more current with Eclipse releases (e.g., to 
have an Eclipse 3.3 compatible offering next year after that version ships), so 
you probably wouldn't have to wait for 2 years again.

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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Pete Helgren
Sent: Mon 10/30/2006 11:43 PM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Eclipse/RAD/WDSC enhancement plans



Thanks for the update.  So that is TWO people who have independently
verified that WDSc will be based on Eclipse 3.2.  I talked to the WDSc
folks at Spring and Fall common and got the same information.  That
means I can use MyEclipse as well on the same Eclipse platform.
Finally, "One platform to rule them all, one platform to find them, one
platform to bring them all and in the darkness"...hey wait a minute,
maybe this isn't such a good idea....

Is there a proposed date for this release?

Pete Helgren


Dean, Robert wrote:

As it so happens, I was in a session at the WebSphere Tech Exchange this 
morning that covered some of the enhancements to the Rational tooling.

Some of the interesting points (working from memory so take this with a grain 
of salt):
- Installation is becoming more fine-grained to reduce memory and disk 
footprint.
- There is a new feature called IBM Install Manager that will allow creation 
of scripts that will automate the process of installing Rational-based 
products.
- The new version can be installed on an existing Eclipse 3.2 installation 
(including Sun JRE).
- EGL and Portal support are being broken out as add-on components (IBM's 
response to customers who said "I want to choose what I buy and install")
- The Web Diagram Editor is improved to include more information about page 
structure.
- JSF support is increased to 1.1.  Third party runtimes (such as MyFaces) 
are supported.
- There are several improvements to the wizards for generating web services.
- There is Jython support for writing and debugging scripts.
- The open beta for Rational Software Architect has been posted for download 
(watch out on the size, though...it's 5GB)
- Rational Web Developer is going away.  It will be replaced by the Rational 
Application Developer Community Edition.  Like WebSphere Community Edition, 
this one is free of charge.  WDSC will be based upon it.

In a separate session, one of the IBM developers talked about IBM's future 
directions for Ajax.  Portal is going to become more Ajax enabled.  IBM 
considers the dojo framework to be a strategic direction, along with the 
Eclipse Ajax Framework (which provides tools to help build and debug Ajax 
applications).

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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Spencer Elliott
Sent: Mon 10/30/2006 11:58 AM
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [WDSCI-L] Eclipse/RAD/WDSC enhancement plans



Hi,
Does anyone have any information about IBMs plans to enhance RAD/WDSC?

We have has to transfer our web development to Eclipse 3.2, MyEclipse
and Instantiations in order to have a modern development environment for
Ajax, JSP and Servlet development.

I have always  used IBM tools but it seems that they are no longer
interested in competing in the web tools market.

Is it IBMs plan to use WDSC for legacy and webfacing projects only?

Thank you,

Spencer Elliott
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