Re: Struts

You read too much into things.  A statement of fact isn't necessarily a
complaint.  The only libraries in that list that I care about getting
more recent support are Struts and JSF.  WebSphere ships with Struts
1.1, Struts 1.2.4 (first delivered in 5.1.1) and Struts 1.2.7 (first
delivered in 6.1).  I can't get enough value out of Hibernate (no stored
procedure support) or Spring (will go right over the newbie Java
developer's head).

The point about IBM selecting what to support is to point out that the
bleeding edge is irrelevant.  WDSC sits on the bleeding edge when IBM
wants it to.

Struts 1 may be moving on sheer momentum, but the next-generation Struts
2 codebase (basically they took a better codebase (WebWork) and have
been building Strutsiness into it) is going to be out soon.  The market
has enough room to support action-based and component-based models, and
the leading choices in those models will be Struts and JSF for some time
to come.  There are rumblings on the struts-dev mailing list that they
want to take Struts 2 (when finished) and submit it as the starting
point for a JSR for action-based web frameworks.

-- Robert 

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On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:57 PM
To: 'Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Struts

From: Dean, Robert

You keep saying that, but the facts don't bear out what you're

trying to

say.  The "bleeding edge" has no relevence in IBM's technology

selection.

That was in response to your complaint that WDSC doesn't support "

(more

current version of Struts and JSF, Hibernate, Spring, etc)".  Your

words,

not mine.

Struts 1.1 has been supported since WDSC 5 rolled out Struts 1.1

beta

support.  SDO and JSF first appeared in WSAD 5.1, when both were

either

pre-release or fresh off the vine.  The fair thing to say is that

IBM

picks what it wants to support.

As does everybody.  MyEclipse doesn't support Cocoon or Tapestry.

What's

your point?

As far as Struts' relevence, Monster shows more than 1000 job

postings

for

Struts in the last 30 days.  If it's out of date, it's out of date

like

RPG (although RPG only had 348 job postings in the last 30 days) and

not

like OS/2.

Struts is dead, but like Keith Richards it keeps moving on sheer

momentum.

But if you missed it, the Shale announcement was Struts' eulogy.

Joe


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