RE: User group meeting last night in Dallas

Cool...I'll be there...

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [WDSCI-L] User group meeting last night in Dallas
> From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, June 22, 2005 11:58 am
> To: "'Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries'"
> <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Sorry your group had a bad experience, Booth.  I've been doing a similar
> presentation around the country, and I've been having no problems.  I
> create an entire application right on my laptop, and for the grand
> finale I even connect to RPG business logic on my iSeries in Chicago
> using my CELL PHONE!  It's slow, sure, but pretty darned impressive.
> (And it's a LOT faster if I can get a VPN connection, but typically
> firewalls prevent that, although hotels often work.)
> 
> The point is that WDSC should never "fail".  I've done this for at least
> five different user groups already, with more presentations lined up,
> and I have yet to have a meltdown.  The teacher may have been prepared,
> but my guess is he never ran it on his new machine.  When I run the
> presentation, I make it clear just how simple this stuff is.  RPG
> programmers tend to walk away going, "Yeah, I can do THAT!"
> 
> As to connectivity issues, one of the big parts of properly showing WDSC
> is to show that all of your web development can be done without even
> touching the iSeries, and that's something I emphasize.  Experienced
> WDSC presenters also know that you can have multiple workspaces from
> which you can restart in case some unforeseen circumstance makes one
> part of your presentation unworkable.
> 
> All in all, I'd say the problem was simply one of preparation.  This is
> not a knock on the presenter at all; WDSC is a huge product and it's
> difficult for anyone to present it in a short period.  It's best done in
> an all-day workshop.  And it helps to have actually written a book on
> the subject <grin>.
> 
> Joe
> 
> P.S. I'm doing a workshop like this in Chicago in September in
> conjunction with Anne Lucas and Team GGI.
> 
> http://time.teamggi.com/events/050914a.asp
> 
> 
> 
> > From: Booth Martin
> > 
> > User group meeting last night in Dallas was interesting but
> distressing to
> > an IBM bigot such as myself.  The presentation was   eServer Studio
> > Development (IDE) IBM WebSphere  versus  Microsoft VisualStudio.Net
> and
> > was
> > billed as being as " An unbiased live demonstration of both these
> products
> > will be presented and will be processed on an IBM eServer i5."
> > 
> > It was the best attended meeting of the year, by far.  Nearly
> everything
> > went well and we all learned a great deal and it was a positive
> > experience.
> > 
> > However, Wepsphere failed.  We could see exciting pieces of it, but it
> is
> > just too complicated to use apparently.  I came away shaking my head
> and
> > wondering why it has to be so complicated and over-engineered, or
> > something.
> >  Once the first piece of the project failed, the speaker's attempts to
> > recover the demonstration just led to a cascading of problems, and
> finally
> > all communication with the iSeries was lost.
> > 
> > I have to admit that VisualStudio looked simplistic to the eye, but
> gosh,
> > it
> > worked.
> 
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