RE: JSR 223 -- WDSCI-L

No one is knocking PHP.  It is just that the reason most people, 
especially in the iSeries world, that might choose it over JSP is that 
they do not want to make all of the investment in WebSphere in Java.  So I 
just find it curious that you would be willing to make that investment but 
then would want to potentially throw the somewhat unproven idea of running 
PHP on top of that instead of just using JSP.

I think most people would agree that the differences between PHP, JSP and 
ASP are extremely minor,  It is usually some other choice such as J2EE vs. 
.NET vs. LAMP that drives the decision.

Mark



wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 09/17/2004 09:45:08 AM:

> Different people like different tools. 
> 
> A lot of people like PHP. It's grown from 2 million to 20 million 
domains in
> 4 years (http://www.php.net/usage.php) and it's currently the most 
popular
> module installed on Apache servers (which are the most widely used 
servers
> on the Web)
> (http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.200408/apachemods.html). 
PHP
> also has a higher programming commununity index from TIOBE than Delphi,
> Python, and JavaScript (http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm).  I just happen 
to
> fall into the crowd of those who like PHP. 
> 
> Kelly
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mark Phippard
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:20 AM
> To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
> Subject: RE: [WDSCI-L] JSR 223
> 
> 
> I think Colin's point is that if you plan on using the Java toolbox to 
> access the iSeries, and you want to run the application in WAS Express, 
> then using PHP over JSP is a suspect choice at best.  If you are going 
to 
> make the investment in WebSphere and Java then you might as well just 
use 
> JSP.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> wdsci-l-bounces+markp=softlanding.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 09/17/2004 
> 09:15:32 AM:
> 
> > That's true. The scripts are similar in that respect. I was just 
saying 
> you
> > don't need to actually code a Servlet or JSP. The PHP script binds the 

> Java
> > classes directly. 
> > 
> > I'm absolutely not saying PHP is better than JSPs or Servlets. These 
are 
> all
> > very useful tools. I just happen to like PHP. 
> > 
> > Kelly
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Colin Williams
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:58 AM
> > To: 'Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries'
> > Subject: RE: [WDSCI-L] JSR 223
> > 
> > 
> > Kelly,
> > 
> > Sorry if im missing something, but how is this different to a jsp? 
> > Just drop the jsp into a Java Web application like an HTML page and it
> > works. 
> > 
> > cheers
> > Colin.W
> > 
> > Extension   5800
> > Direct dial   0870 429 5800
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kelly Cookson [mailto:KCookson@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > Sent: 17 September 2004 13:50
> > To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
> > Subject: [WDSCI-L] JSR 223
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone know if IBM plans to support JSR 223 in the WebSphere
> > Application Server?  JSR 223 is a new specification from that Java 
> Community
> > Process that lets scripting languages like PHP use Java classes when 
run 
> in
> > a Servlet container. For example, here's a test script written in PHP 
> that
> > uses IBM Toolbox for Java classes to authenticate a user on the 
iSeries:
> > 
> > <html>
> > <head></head>
> > <body>
> > <?php
> >  try {
> >    //Set the network name of the iSeries, the user name, and the user
> > password.
> >   $clsSystem = new Java("java.lang.String", "mysystem");
> >   $clsUser = new Java("java.lang.String", "myname");
> >   $clsPassword = new Java("java.lang.String", "mypassowrd");
> >   //Create a connection to the iSeries.
> >   $iSeries = new Java("com.ibm.as400.access.AS400", $clsSystem, 
> $clsUser,
> > $clsPassword);
> >   //Authenticate the user and respond to the outcome.
> >   $uservalid = $iSeries->authenticate($clsUser, $clsPassword);
> >   if ($uservalid==true) {
> >    echo("valid user");
> >   } else {
> >    echo("invalid user");
> >   }
> >  } catch (Exception $e) {
> >   echo("Error."); 
> >  }
> > ?>
> > </body>
> > </html>
> > 
> > The PHP script could also get the user information from a login form 
and
> > start a session to remember the user name and password for subsequent
> > interactions with the iSeries. No need to code Servlets or JSPs. Just 
> drop
> > this script in a Java Web application like an HTML page and it works. 
> > 
> > Right now I'm using a basic text editor and the Tomcat Servlet 
container
> > (since that was the reference implementation for JSR 223). However, 
I'd 
> like
> > to be able to code my scripts in WebSphere Development Studio, test 
them 
> in
> > the WebSphere Application Server bundled with the studio, and install 
> them
> > in WebSphere Application Server Express for production. 
> > 
> > Anyone know IBM's plans for JSR 223 and WebSphere?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Kelly
> > 
> > 
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