RE: 5.0 Availability was ->RE: V4.0 Service Packs 3 & 4 -- WDSCI-L

Jim

We have both Win2K and XP Pro. iSeries Express, OpsNag, etc., run fine. On both.

I change the look of XP to be the same as 2K - you can do that. The XP desktop does not let you add to the Start button the same way as 2K - it keeps only the most recently used.

Setting up networking is not fun in XP, least ways, not for me. There are so-called wizards, and they only confuse the issue for someone (me) who knew what to do in earlier releases. I could not find the scenario that matched any of my setups. I think Internet Connection Sharing is assumed, and this is not a good idea in a corporate setting.

One app that we use is Remote Desktop. I believe, though, that it is in 2K in some form, under a different name, maybe. It does what PC/Anywhere does.

What is the ROI that XP gives? What do you get that you don't get in 2K? The Win Product Activation is a potential nightmare. Present a "we're getting nothing extra, for lots of more money paid out" presentaion. Ask your boss what "real" benefit, demonstrable, he will get from XP Pro.

There are also more restrictions on hardware, I think.

Oh, yeah, XP Pro lets you play older games better than Win 2K does. That's about it, AFAIC.

HTH

Vern

At 10:21 AM 4/25/2003 -0600, you wrote:

Jon,

Thanks for your comments and input.  I agree with you about M$ and their
assumption that we are thieves.  Intuit (Quicken and TurboTax financial
software for the home user) seems to have adopted that same assumption.

Our general policy is to keep everything the same on all PCs so that we
don't have the support issue of "what version do you have?".  That way I
don't have to support  version 9, 10, and 11 of Word Perfect Office (note
- no M$ money going out!)  Unless the boss can be convinced that Win XP
Pro is not the latest and greatest, I will be forced to upgrade all our
PCs to the new Op Sys.  If you could send me some links or articles that
support what you are saying, I would love to build a case for not spending
more money.  However, XP Pro might be the issue that gets us DSL access to
the desktop (finally!!) if M$ seems to need to be contacted.

The ThinkPads we just purchased have Win XP (they cost a lot more, and
were slower in delivery with Win 2K, and the boss wants them NOW), and so
that forces the upgrade issue.

How about other IBM products like iSeries Access, *Nag*-avator, etc.?  Do
they play well with Win XP Pro?

Thanks again for your input!

Jim Essinger
Senior Programmer/Analyst
SLFI
208-452-4058

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend ...
 Inside of a dog its too dark to read anyway!"
    Attributed to Groucho Marx

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> First comment.  Everything I've seen in PC mags and elsewhere on the web
> (we researched it fairly extensively just before buying new PCs since so
> many only offered XP) said that if you have Win 2000 there is zero point
> in switching.  Tech Republic (I think) did a piece on this.  They came
> up with a couple of situations where you might want to switch, but
> overall the consensus seemed to be "why give MS more money when you
> don't need to".
>
> My other feeling is that since I change hardware around a lot on my PCs
> (and I depend on them totally to make my living) - the last thing on
> earth I want to have to do is to "phone home" to Mother MS to get
> permission to use something I've paid for just because they suspect me
> of cheating.  Even IBM at their height never got this arrogant.  I'm
> hoping that by the time I need to replace Win 2000 I can move to a Linux
> (or other) desktop and forget all about MS.
>
> As to WDSc - it was only the WDT400 V5R1 that had trouble with XP
> install. WDSc V4 and the just released V5 are both tested for XP and
> should install just fine.
>
> Jon Paris
> Partner400
> www.Partner400.com

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