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Mark I am soooooooooooooooooo glad that I didn't come to that conclusion in isolation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe, It must be difficult being so brilliant and surrounded by such knuckle-dragging incompetence. Let's see, in just the past few weeks you have declared ... 1) The designers of SWT to be a bunch of idiots. 2) The designers of WebFacing are idiots. 3) The designers of J2EE are idiots. 4) I am an idiot and I think Buck was one too for a while. 5) Numerous people on the midrange-l list are idiots. On behalf of us all, thanks for showing us the light. When you become Emperor please show some pity on us all. Mark
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