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Re: SYSTEM21 Digest, Vol 3, Issue 106

I also agree with Mike and Barbara, you should be very careful setting up 
users. It is not necessary for System 21 users to be defined in QPGMR 
group, because QPGMR is much stronger profile than a simple user need to 
be. Barbara is quit right that all user should be defined in system 21 
with no command line authority, except some users who really need to run 
commands like (RUNQRY) and they have enough understanding with AS400 
commands and can be trusted to use them.

We have defined all our users with a group profile (our own created) to 
control authorities on different libraries with authority lists. None of 
our users (except programmers) has any special authority, or defined with 
QPGMR group.

Its working great, and we have no authority/security problem at all.


Dawer Khan
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   3. RE: JBA and AS/400 User profiles (Diana Larsson)
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   7. RE: Advanced Planning System (APS) to System21 (Roy Luce)
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message: 1
date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 13:48:15 -0500
from: "Jose Ignacio Betancur" <jbetancur@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: [SYSTEM21]   Advanced Planning System (APS) to System21

Hi everybody,

Somebody has experience with some APS solution integrated to System21
manufacturing modules, could you give the brand and some idea about the
complexity to integration with System21, Some about your experience with
this issue.

Thank in advance




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message: 2
date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:05:33 -0400 
from: Ram Hari <RamHari@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: [SYSTEM21]   JBA and AS/400 User profiles



We are setting up all our users in JBA with QPGMR group profile. I need to
know is that how you set your users too.
 
Also can someone let me know how QPGMR user profile is set up in your
system, Like what special authorities you have given to QPGMR.
Should QPGMR have *allobj authority because JBA uses this profile for its
process.

Your time and help is appreciated.

Thanks


Ram S. Hari
Information Services
Wasserstrom 
ramhari@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Voice 614.737.8542
Fax    614.737.3275




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message: 3
date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:18:08 -0400
from: "Diana Larsson" <dlarsson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [SYSTEM21]   JBA and AS/400 User profiles

You must set your users to group profile qpgmr and qpgmr must have *allobj
for system 21 to execute. 

-----Original Message-----
From: system21-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:system21-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ram Hari
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:06 PM
To: 'System 21 Users'
Subject: [SYSTEM21] JBA and AS/400 User profiles



We are setting up all our users in JBA with QPGMR group profile. I need to
know is that how you set your users too.
 
Also can someone let me know how QPGMR user profile is set up in your
system, Like what special authorities you have given to QPGMR.
Should QPGMR have *allobj authority because JBA uses this profile for its
process.

Your time and help is appreciated.

Thanks


Ram S. Hari
Information Services
Wasserstrom
ramhari@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Voice 614.737.8542
Fax    614.737.3275


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date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:42:16 -0400 
from: "Lemon, Mike" <MLemon@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [SYSTEM21]   JBA and AS/400 User profiles

WOAH!!!!  I'm hoping Diana's response was a joke!

*ALLOBJ is not required for QUSER.  Neither is group profile QPGMR 
required
for your users.

We are at 3.51 and all of our users have always been given QUSER group
profiles.  In addition, whatever profile you specify should **NOT** have
*ALLOBJ authority as that would allow any user to delete any object on the
system from a command line.  Oh, it would also mean that all users would 
be
able to recompile programs, execute any commands, etc.

Our users are set to group profile QUSER.  No special authorities are
assigned to QUSER or the user's profile.

On our system, the profile QPGMR does have some special authorities 
(*ALLOBJ
being one of them).  I don't KNOW if it is necessary though.  Here is the
complete list:
 
                 *ALLOBJ
                 *JOBCTL
                 *SAVSYS
                 *SPLCTL

-Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: Diana Larsson [mailto:dlarsson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:18 PM
To: 'System 21 Users'
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA and AS/400 User profiles


You must set your users to group profile qpgmr and qpgmr must have *allobj
for system 21 to execute. 

-----Original Message-----
From: system21-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:system21-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ram Hari
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:06 PM
To: 'System 21 Users'
Subject: [SYSTEM21] JBA and AS/400 User profiles



We are setting up all our users in JBA with QPGMR group profile. I need to
know is that how you set your users too.
 
Also can someone let me know how QPGMR user profile is set up in your
system, Like what special authorities you have given to QPGMR. Should 
QPGMR
have *allobj authority because JBA uses this profile for its process.

Your time and help is appreciated.

Thanks


Ram S. Hari
Information Services
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ramhari@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Voice 614.737.8542
Fax    614.737.3275


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message: 5
date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:26:38 -0400 
from: Ram Hari <RamHari@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [SYSTEM21]   JBA and AS/400 User profiles

This is exactly why I am asking this question. I have some users that run
AS/400 queries from command line. These users then have almost all
authorities as a SECOFR.

Please let me know
Thanks



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From:            Diana Larsson [mailto:dlarsson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent:            Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:18 PM
To:              'System 21 Users'
Subject:                 RE: [SYSTEM21]   JBA and AS/400 User profiles

You must set your users to group profile qpgmr and qpgmr must have *allobj
for system 21 to execute. 

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Ram Hari
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:06 PM
To: 'System 21 Users'
Subject: [SYSTEM21] JBA and AS/400 User profiles



We are setting up all our users in JBA with QPGMR group profile. I need to
know is that how you set your users too.
 
Also can someone let me know how QPGMR user profile is set up in your
system, Like what special authorities you have given to QPGMR.
Should QPGMR have *allobj authority because JBA uses this profile for its
process.

Your time and help is appreciated.

Thanks


Ram S. Hari
Information Services
Wasserstrom
ramhari@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Voice 614.737.8542
Fax    614.737.3275


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message: 6
date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:48:33 -0400
from: "Diana Larsson" <dlarsson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [SYSTEM21]   JBA and AS/400 User profiles

No it wasn't a joke, that what we were told to setup our users. 

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Lemon, Mike
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:42 PM
To: 'System 21 Users'
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA and AS/400 User profiles

WOAH!!!!  I'm hoping Diana's response was a joke!

*ALLOBJ is not required for QUSER.  Neither is group profile QPGMR 
required
for your users.

We are at 3.51 and all of our users have always been given QUSER group
profiles.  In addition, whatever profile you specify should **NOT** have
*ALLOBJ authority as that would allow any user to delete any object on the
system from a command line.  Oh, it would also mean that all users would 
be
able to recompile programs, execute any commands, etc.

Our users are set to group profile QUSER.  No special authorities are
assigned to QUSER or the user's profile.

On our system, the profile QPGMR does have some special authorities 
(*ALLOBJ
being one of them).  I don't KNOW if it is necessary though.  Here is the
complete list:
 
                 *ALLOBJ
                 *JOBCTL
                 *SAVSYS
                 *SPLCTL

-Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: Diana Larsson [mailto:dlarsson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:18 PM
To: 'System 21 Users'
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA and AS/400 User profiles


You must set your users to group profile qpgmr and qpgmr must have *allobj
for system 21 to execute. 

-----Original Message-----
From: system21-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:system21-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ram Hari
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:06 PM
To: 'System 21 Users'
Subject: [SYSTEM21] JBA and AS/400 User profiles



We are setting up all our users in JBA with QPGMR group profile. I need to
know is that how you set your users too.
 
Also can someone let me know how QPGMR user profile is set up in your
system, Like what special authorities you have given to QPGMR. Should 
QPGMR
have *allobj authority because JBA uses this profile for its process.

Your time and help is appreciated.

Thanks


Ram S. Hari
Information Services
Wasserstrom
ramhari@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Voice 614.737.8542
Fax    614.737.3275


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message: 7
date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:54:52 -0500
from: "Roy Luce" <lwl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [SYSTEM21]   Advanced Planning System (APS) to System21

To the list.

No direct experience but I have a client who spent $1.5 million US to
implement an APS system.  After 5 years of planning and implementing they
abandoned the effort.  The biggest issue was trying to keep the business
rules current.  Unfortunately their rules changed every day but took 
several
days to implement.  The end result was they could never trust the results.

In place of the APS they implemented a Rapid Priority Management system.
For more on rapid priority management see the RPM section of Carol Ptak's
book "ERP, Tools, Techniques and Applications for integrating the Supply
Chain - 2nd Edition" published by St. Lucie Press.  The RPM discussion
starts on page 188.

And yes I am a representative of a Rapid Priority Management system.

For more contact me off line.

Roy Luce

Main:            847-540-9635
Cell:            847-910-0884
Fax:             847-620-2799 *new*
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Behalf Of Jose Ignacio Betancur
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:48 PM
To: System 21 Users
Subject: [SYSTEM21] Advanced Planning System (APS) to System21

Hi everybody,

Somebody has experience with some APS solution integrated to System21
manufacturing modules, could you give the brand and some idea about the
complexity to integration with System21, Some about your experience with
this issue.

Thank in advance


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message: 8
date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:58:06 -0400
from: "Barbara Byrne" <bbyrne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [SYSTEM21]   JBA and AS/400 User profiles

I agree with Mike.  Be very careful what authority you give users.
Very important is the line in AS/400 User Profile.
Limit capabilities . . . . . . .   *YES          *SAME, *NO, *PARTIAL, 
*YES
 *YES means they do not have command line access except to enter option
number.
JBA User Profile should have the follwing line set to 0 = NO.
Allow command entry . . . . . . 0       (1=Yes,0=No)

Barbara


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lemon, Mike" <MLemon@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'System 21 Users'" <system21@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA and AS/400 User profiles


> WOAH!!!!  I'm hoping Diana's response was a joke!
>
> *ALLOBJ is not required for QUSER.  Neither is group profile QPGMR
required
> for your users.
>
> We are at 3.51 and all of our users have always been given QUSER group
> profiles.  In addition, whatever profile you specify should **NOT** have
> *ALLOBJ authority as that would allow any user to delete any object on 
the
> system from a command line.  Oh, it would also mean that all users would
be
> able to recompile programs, execute any commands, etc.
>
> Our users are set to group profile QUSER.  No special authorities are
> assigned to QUSER or the user's profile.
>
> On our system, the profile QPGMR does have some special authorities
(*ALLOBJ
> being one of them).  I don't KNOW if it is necessary though.  Here is 
the
> complete list:
>
> *ALLOBJ
> *JOBCTL
> *SAVSYS
> *SPLCTL
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diana Larsson [mailto:dlarsson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:18 PM
> To: 'System 21 Users'
> Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA and AS/400 User profiles
>
>
> You must set your users to group profile qpgmr and qpgmr must have 
*allobj
> for system 21 to execute.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: system21-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:system21-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Ram Hari
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:06 PM
> To: 'System 21 Users'
> Subject: [SYSTEM21] JBA and AS/400 User profiles
>
>
>
> We are setting up all our users in JBA with QPGMR group profile. I need 
to
> know is that how you set your users too.
>
> Also can someone let me know how QPGMR user profile is set up in your
> system, Like what special authorities you have given to QPGMR. Should
QPGMR
> have *allobj authority because JBA uses this profile for its process.
>
> Your time and help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Ram S. Hari
> Information Services
> Wasserstrom
> ramhari@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Voice 614.737.8542
> Fax    614.737.3275
>
>
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