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There may be a little confusion going on here. I know some people copy the whole system to their environment and then run with that. The way I have always worked is to make any changes in my environment (lib list, menus & tasks) but leave everything that is unmodified where it is. The 9000 range of tasks is OK in the blank environment but we feel more comfortable using our custom environment, especially as we need it for modified standard tasks. We have a few tasks where we override the job and output queues for the entire system. I'll be charitable and say I think the comments may have been taken out of context, but then vital information such as this should be explained fully and it is the job of the messenger to ensure the correct message gets through. At least it prompted one of the liveliest discussions in a long while. Richard Caldicott Director of Implementations & Efficiency Tandy Brands Accessories 817-548-0090 extn 146 "Chris Tringham" <ctringham@i-cable To: "System 21 Users" <system21@xxxxxxxxxxxx> .com> cc: Sent by: Subject: [SYSTEM21] The "standard" environment system21-bounces@m idrange.com 02/15/2005 08:22 AM Please respond to System 21 Users Long ago, I was persuaded that the correct way to set up S21 was to leave the blank environment totally alone. Any changes (to library lists, tasks, menus) would go into the appropriate environments. This advice is repeated in the "redbook" that came out 3-4 years ago. Now, Geac are saying that this is not the way to go. Instead, any new tasks should be created in the blank environment and library lists should be amended in the blank environment. They say that as long as you use library mapping and follow their standards for customised tasks everything will be fine, and that this setup is easier to maintain and understand. No need to define the applications in your "standard" environment because you don't need them - you can use the blank environment. There are some obvious benefits such as not needing to authorize users to both the blank and standard environments. However, I still have some doubts, but I am not sure whether I have just been thoroughly indoctrinated in the old way of thinking and just can't think straight. For example, if I want to change certain jobs to run in different job queues, I can change the task definition in the live and/or test environment and it works fine, but I haven't touched the standard definition. If I make changes like that in the blank environment they may get overwritten by a PTF or new release. Or is there some smarter way to achieve the same thing? Any thoughts? And have Geac announced this change in thinking somewhere that I haven't noticed? _______________________________________________ This is the System 21 Users (SYSTEM21) mailing list To post a message email: SYSTEM21@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/system21 or email: SYSTEM21-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/system21.
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