Jeff, We do a lot of construction/engineering projects where we capture employee expenses/inventory cost/labor costs. We also record timesheets for every employee in the company against a project (and then interface this data to our PC based Payroll package). For a disciplined company whose main focus of business consists of large projects, I feel that Job Management can be a good solution. If you are basically a manufacturing/distribution company, then you might want to find something lighter. We are very happy with the system, but I agree with your comment about the buggy nature of the JBA code. We actually re-wrote the invoicing module to fit our companies needs. We are still at 3.5.1 and it is extremely stable now. FYI, I'm under the impression that JM evolved from 3.5.0 to 3.5.1 to 3.5.2. Apparantly some aspects work very differently just between those three releases. You might investigate which version you have and see if anything got better/easier in a different version. The biggest complaint that I get now comes from managers and engineers who wish to do analysis on the data. 5250 emulation doesn't really make a great visual analysis tool. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Klipa [mailto:jklipa@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 4:25 PM To: system21@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SYSTEM21] Any substitute for Job Management...? We've used Job Management in the past for tracking costs associated with new part launches and tooling and prototyping, etc... We also have used it to relieve purchase commitments and book engineer's timesheets against the budget... I don't like using it and it's fallen out of favor here... The code is buggy, prone to failure... Version 3.5.x leaves a great deal to be desired in terms of stability, and usability... We've never been able to generate invoices from it or chosen not to... I'm wondering if anyone out there is using anything else to track these costs... and tie them to purchasing and accounting... Thanks in advance... _________________________________________________________________ Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://shopping.msn.com/softcontent/softcontent.aspx?scmId=1418 _______________________________________________ This is the System 21 Users (SYSTEM21) mailing list To post a message email: SYSTEM21@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/system21 or email: SYSTEM21-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/system21.