RE: [SYS21] System 21, Premenos and EDI -- SYSTEM21

Kate:

The investment required to learn the EDI translator are minimal.  My clients
have typically been able to manage the task within a few hours, without
going off to a class.  The biggest portion of that time line is spent
understanding the trading partner's transaction/message requirements.
Typically it turns out to be a human communications issue.  I wish I had a
dollar for every time I've heard the phrase "what do they mean by this" when
someone is modeling their data to the transaction.

As for the EDI benefits being to the customer: I'd agree the benefits tend
to be to the customer, particularly if you are only seeing 1 or 2 orders a
month or if you are only processing inbound POs.  In most cases suppliers
begin to reap the benefits when they begin to send invoices and process
payments via EDI.

However in some cases the benefits to you, the supplier, are as great or
greater than those realized by the customer; for example:  one of my clients
produces season merchandise.  Their order peak typically occurs in late
February or early March.  The mass retailers often send orders for their
stores on a single day and because the volume for each store is relatively
small there is no distribution center involved - all shipments go directly
to the store.  That means entering between individual store orders into
their system for each mass retailer; for one retailer the store orders
typically exceed 2,700.  Before EDI the order entry process required up to
11 work days for any one of the mass retailers; the data entry error rate
was 3+%.  After EDI the order entry process requires less than 30 minutes,
not including any manual reviews of processing errors; the data entry error
rate is 0%.

Hard to say who reaps the benefits in the above case.


Roy Luce
Systems Plus - Midwest
Developers of RPM compliant software
Main:   800-913-7587
Cell:   847-910-0884
Fax:    208-330-9032
Email:  lwl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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From: jbausers-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jbausers-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kate Healy
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:13 AM
To: 'jbausers-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [SYS21] System 21, Premenos and EDI

We have been using Premenos software with Harbinger to format received
orders in to System 21 format, and to send System 21 invoices to customers.

However, we find that each time we set up a new message with a customer, we
are being faced with very expensive consultancy charges for formatting the
new message.

Have others found a cost effective way of setting up new EDI messages?

Would it be very difficult to do it in house?

Even a manual work around could work for us because invariably, the benefits
of the EDI are to our customers, not to us.

Looking forward to hearing any ideas,

Kate Healy.
Ei Electronics
Phone: +353 61 471277
Fax:     +353 61 471140
Homepage:  www.eielectronics.com
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