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Or you can set a cutoff date (end of year would be nice, after you close the
books,etc) then make these items FIFO

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Today's Topics:

   1. Vendor Sourcing (Mona Ferriols)
   2. non Balance Sheet items in inventory that are standard costed
(tkresky@sunflowermfg.com)
   3. RE: non Balance Sheet items in inventory that are stand
       ard costed (Steve Dodkins)
   4. Re: non Balance Sheet items in inventory that are standard costed (Ed
Lybrook)
   5. RE: non Balance Sheet items in inventory that are standard costed
(tkresky@sunflowermfg.com)

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Message: 1
From: Mona Ferriols <mon.ferriols@ionics-ems.com>
To: "Jbausers-L (E-mail)" <jbausers-l@midrange.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:40:05 +0800
Subject: [SYS21]   Vendor Sourcing
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What does VS run Source of 4 mean in VSP40? and what is the demand point in
VSP45? which program/activity trigger the change os these?

Mon Ferriols
Data Management and Control
Ionics EMS, Inc. Plant 7
Tel: (049) 545-9751
Email: mon.ferriols@ionics-ems.com
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Message: 2
To: jbausers-l@midrange.com
From: tkresky@sunflowermfg.com
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 09:39:03 -0600
Subject: [SYS21]   non Balance Sheet items in inventory that are standard
costed
Reply-To: jbausers-l@midrange.com

I've given up trying to get help from Geac.  The 'answer' provided by
AnswerLink is to hire their consultants to get the answer.  Funny thing,
I've asked many Geac consultants over the last 3 years about this and have
yet to receive an answer from a single one of them.  And, all this while
trying to triple our maintenance fee!  ................Man, am I
frustrated.

Anyhow...  maybe you folks can help me with this.  What I posted on
AnswerLink follows:

                                                 Here is our situation...
                                                 We have 2 types of
                                                 inventory: production
                                                 and supplies. Only
                                                 production inventory is
                                                 shown on the Balance
                                                 Sheet. Supplies are
                                                 expensed as received.
                                                 When the system was set
                                                 up several years back,
                                                 the supplies were setup
                                                 as 'standard costed'
                                                 items. As such, these
                                                 items are being handled
                                                 exactly as the
                                                 'production' standard
                                                 costed items are. That
                                                 is, upon receipt, an
                                                 accrual is posted to the
                                                 G/L and price variance
                                                 recognized. Remember I
                                                 said these are expensed?
                                                 I don't mind the auto
                                                 accrue feature but I
                                                 very much mind taking
                                                 purchase price variance
                                                 on expensed items. So...
                                                 my hope is that I can
                                                 change the supplies to
                                                 some other cost type
                                                 (FIFO is what I have in
                                                 mind) so they'll stop
                                                 generating price
                                                 variance. Then, the
                                                 question becomes how to
                                                 do that without causing
                                                 heartburn to the system.




Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.


R. Tim Kresky, Controller
   Sunflower Manufacturing
      a division of AGCO Corporation
   ph: (785) 738-2261 x272
   fax: (785)-738-2406
   email: tim.kresky@sunflowermfg.com


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Message: 3
From: Steve Dodkins <Steve.Dodkins@ebm-ziehl.co.uk>
To: "'jbausers-l@midrange.com'" <jbausers-l@midrange.com>
Subject: RE: [SYS21]   non Balance Sheet items in inventory that are stand
        ard costed
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:59:10 -0000
Reply-To: jbausers-l@midrange.com

Can't you treat the expensed items as non stock items?

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: tkresky@sunflowermfg.com [mailto:tkresky@sunflowermfg.com]
Sent: 29 November 2002 15:39
To: jbausers-l@midrange.com
Subject: [SYS21] non Balance Sheet items in inventory that are standard
costed


I've given up trying to get help from Geac.  The 'answer' provided by
AnswerLink is to hire their consultants to get the answer.  Funny thing,
I've asked many Geac consultants over the last 3 years about this and have
yet to receive an answer from a single one of them.  And, all this while
trying to triple our maintenance fee!  ................Man, am I
frustrated.

Anyhow...  maybe you folks can help me with this.  What I posted on
AnswerLink follows:

                                                 Here is our situation...
                                                 We have 2 types of
                                                 inventory: production
                                                 and supplies. Only
                                                 production inventory is
                                                 shown on the Balance
                                                 Sheet. Supplies are
                                                 expensed as received.
                                                 When the system was set
                                                 up several years back,
                                                 the supplies were setup
                                                 as 'standard costed'
                                                 items. As such, these
                                                 items are being handled
                                                 exactly as the
                                                 'production' standard
                                                 costed items are. That
                                                 is, upon receipt, an
                                                 accrual is posted to the
                                                 G/L and price variance
                                                 recognized. Remember I
                                                 said these are expensed?
                                                 I don't mind the auto
                                                 accrue feature but I
                                                 very much mind taking
                                                 purchase price variance
                                                 on expensed items. So...
                                                 my hope is that I can
                                                 change the supplies to
                                                 some other cost type
                                                 (FIFO is what I have in
                                                 mind) so they'll stop
                                                 generating price
                                                 variance. Then, the
                                                 question becomes how to
                                                 do that without causing
                                                 heartburn to the system.




Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.


R. Tim Kresky, Controller
   Sunflower Manufacturing
      a division of AGCO Corporation
   ph: (785) 738-2261 x272
   fax: (785)-738-2406
   email: tim.kresky@sunflowermfg.com

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Message: 4
From: "Ed Lybrook" <elybrook@btcgrp.com>
To: <jbausers-l@midrange.com>
Subject: Re: [SYS21]   non Balance Sheet items in inventory that are
standard costed
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:04:43 -0500
Reply-To: jbausers-l@midrange.com

You can create a non-inventory stockroom and use that for your supplies.
Post to the supplies account when you receive the invoice.
----- Original Message -----
From: <tkresky@sunflowermfg.com>
To: <jbausers-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 10:39 AM
Subject: [SYS21] non Balance Sheet items in inventory that are standard
costed


> I've given up trying to get help from Geac.  The 'answer' provided by
> AnswerLink is to hire their consultants to get the answer.  Funny thing,
> I've asked many Geac consultants over the last 3 years about this and have
> yet to receive an answer from a single one of them.  And, all this while
> trying to triple our maintenance fee!  ................Man, am I
> frustrated.
>
> Anyhow...  maybe you folks can help me with this.  What I posted on
> AnswerLink follows:
>
>                                                  Here is our situation...
>                                                  We have 2 types of
>                                                  inventory: production
>                                                  and supplies. Only
>                                                  production inventory is
>                                                  shown on the Balance
>                                                  Sheet. Supplies are
>                                                  expensed as received.
>                                                  When the system was set
>                                                  up several years back,
>                                                  the supplies were setup
>                                                  as 'standard costed'
>                                                  items. As such, these
>                                                  items are being handled
>                                                  exactly as the
>                                                  'production' standard
>                                                  costed items are. That
>                                                  is, upon receipt, an
>                                                  accrual is posted to the
>                                                  G/L and price variance
>                                                  recognized. Remember I
>                                                  said these are expensed?
>                                                  I don't mind the auto
>                                                  accrue feature but I
>                                                  very much mind taking
>                                                  purchase price variance
>                                                  on expensed items. So...
>                                                  my hope is that I can
>                                                  change the supplies to
>                                                  some other cost type
>                                                  (FIFO is what I have in
>                                                  mind) so they'll stop
>                                                  generating price
>                                                  variance. Then, the
>                                                  question becomes how to
>                                                  do that without causing
>                                                  heartburn to the system.
>
>
>
>
> Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
>
>
> R. Tim Kresky, Controller
>    Sunflower Manufacturing
>       a division of AGCO Corporation
>    ph: (785) 738-2261 x272
>    fax: (785)-738-2406
>    email: tim.kresky@sunflowermfg.com
>
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Message: 5
Subject: RE: [SYS21]   non Balance Sheet items in inventory that are
standard costed
To: jbausers-l@midrange.com
From: tkresky@sunflowermfg.com
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:30:22 -0600
Reply-To: jbausers-l@midrange.com


First, please excuse my outburst about Geac.  There are a lot of fine
people there doing the best they can.

I should have mentioned I'm just a simple accountant.  I have some
knowledge of what goes on in the Inventory module, but not a lot.  The key
is we want to track the inventory quantity on expense items, so we know
when to reorder things.  If memory serves me correctly, making something
non-stock prevents you from tracking inventory.

Regards,

R. Tim Kresky, Controller
   Sunflower Manufacturing
      a division of AGCO Corporation
   ph: (785) 738-2261 x272
   fax: (785)-738-2406
   email: tim.kresky@sunflowermfg.com



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"'jbausers-l@midrange.com'" <jbausers-l@midrange.com>
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Can't you treat the expensed items as non stock items?

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: tkresky@sunflowermfg.com [mailto:tkresky@sunflowermfg.com]
Sent: 29 November 2002 15:39
To: jbausers-l@midrange.com
Subject: [SYS21] non Balance Sheet items in inventory that are standard
costed


I've given up trying to get help from Geac.  The 'answer' provided by
AnswerLink is to hire their consultants to get the answer.  Funny thing,
I've asked many Geac consultants over the last 3 years about this and have
yet to receive an answer from a single one of them.  And, all this while
trying to triple our maintenance fee!  ................Man, am I
frustrated.

Anyhow...  maybe you folks can help me with this.  What I posted on
AnswerLink follows:

                                                 Here is our situation...
                                                 We have 2 types of
                                                 inventory: production
                                                 and supplies. Only
                                                 production inventory is
                                                 shown on the Balance
                                                 Sheet. Supplies are
                                                 expensed as received.
                                                 When the system was set
                                                 up several years back,
                                                 the supplies were setup
                                                 as 'standard costed'
                                                 items. As such, these
                                                 items are being handled
                                                 exactly as the
                                                 'production' standard
                                                 costed items are. That
                                                 is, upon receipt, an
                                                 accrual is posted to the
                                                 G/L and price variance
                                                 recognized. Remember I
                                                 said these are expensed?
                                                 I don't mind the auto
                                                 accrue feature but I
                                                 very much mind taking
                                                 purchase price variance
                                                 on expensed items. So...
                                                 my hope is that I can
                                                 change the supplies to
                                                 some other cost type
                                                 (FIFO is what I have in
                                                 mind) so they'll stop
                                                 generating price
                                                 variance. Then, the
                                                 question becomes how to
                                                 do that without causing
                                                 heartburn to the system.




Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.


R. Tim Kresky, Controller
   Sunflower Manufacturing
      a division of AGCO Corporation
   ph: (785) 738-2261 x272
   fax: (785)-738-2406
   email: tim.kresky@sunflowermfg.com

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