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The INP35F file along with the INP34 file - are left populated... : File.....: OSLD1F3/INP34 File Text: Sales Analysis Deleted Item File. I can see how Sales Analysis might need to keep a residual remnant of the deleted Item for its own purposes... I'm not exactly sure how this file is used by Sales Analysis, if at all... While there are other problems with the Item Deletion routines these two files are left populated on purpose (at least that's my belief...) I'm not sure, but it's possible, that there may be negative complications if you reactivate a deleted Item and I believe this was their way of letting you know that you're about to reuse a deleted Item... All you have to do is clear the records from INP35F and INP34 and you're good to go... It's up to each company to decide if they want to reuse a deleted Item # and it's good to know when you're about to do it... (IMHO) We have just spent several man-hours writing bolt-on validation and deletion routines for the vanilla Item Deletion... It was necessary for us since we have written modules to create duplicate routes for our Frozen Standards strategy in which we can allow the plant managers to make changes to routes during the fiscal year while maintaining the integrity of our Frozen Standards and keeping track of the cost changes in a Variance Account... In order to do this we had to protect the production routes from direct user changes on the screen... Instead they are allowed to make changes to the "C" routes... We have an automated job that will install route changes from non-production "C" routes each night provided they meet certain criteria for costing, and effectivity date, etc... As part of the item deletion we needed to go into the Manufacturing side of the package and delete records from several files there as well... Since users cannot delete protected Routes or Production Details. We developed a custom program to delete these protected things for them if the Item would otherwise qualifies for deletion. And "otherwise qualifies for deletion means": No stockroom inventory No WIP inventory No production booking in the last 12 months No invoices in the last 12 months No inventory movements in the last 12 months No open purchase orders No open customer orders No open work orders JBA also say they disqualify subcontracted items. However they test SBCP35 = 1 in INP35 to determine if an item is subcontracted. Currently there are no items subcontracted by this test in our database. We know there are subcontracted items with flags in MSP24 and records in PDP32, and PCP94. We believe the subcontracting information should be cleaned up when we delete items. We think the subcontract information is a relatively small problem that JBA has ignored up to now without any major repercussions. Therefore we will defer fixing this until we further refine the process. Another transaction that the JBA deletion process checks is customer returns. Looking at our environment, we find that not all plants do customer returns. Not all returns have a value for the credit date. For those with a credit date the return activity shows up in the invoicing and inventory movement files. Such activity could disqualify an Item from deletion. We're still investigating why a return would be processed without a credit date. This effort has been significant but well worth the effort... There are a number of shortcomings in the vanilla Item Deletion routine but the records left in INP35F and INP34 are not an oversight in my opinion... Hope that helps... Diana Larsson <dlarsson@ardencompanies.com> on 08/22/2001 09:36:39 AM Please respond to jbausers-l@midrange.com To: "'jbausers-l@midrange.com'" <jbausers-l@midrange.com> cc: (bcc: Jeff Klipa/Harvard) Subject JBA MLRE: Item Deletion : Has anyone reused item numbers after using the deletion routine. I found that the records are not deleted from the Inp35F (item extension file). Any know fixes on the item deletion program? Thank you, diana -----Original Message----- From: Diana Larsson Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 7:37 AM To: 'jbausers-l@midrange.com' Subject: Item Deletion If you run the utility 26/INU and retain no history, will you be able to reuse the item number? Thanks for your help. -diana _______________________________________________ This is the GEAC/JBA System 21 Users (JBAUSERS-L) mailing list To post a message email: JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/jbausers-l or email: JBAUSERS-L-request@midrange.com _______________________________________________ This is the GEAC/JBA System 21 Users (JBAUSERS-L) mailing list To post a message email: JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/jbausers-l or email: JBAUSERS-L-request@midrange.com
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