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Stu's suggestions are all good ones and I would encourage you to use all of
them...  Also, if you have been running AMDAYEND each night then you will
have many members (one for each day) in a file called "APG02ARC  -
Application Function Allocation Archive File"...

Using the following command and menu option choices you can access, review,
and even delete these archived members which contain archived records from
APG02PHY of all jobs run within JBA for the stated time period...  This
file can grow quite large if not monitored...

STRIPGAM   -   (or STRM400 and option 5. Application Manager)
5. Operational Inquiries
2. Active Jobs
3. Flexible Inquiry
Should present you with the following sample screen of data...
      Archive      Creation   Access                  Date       Date
Opt   Member         Date      Path   No of entries   From       To
      X000327       3/27/00                      125   03/26/00   03/27/00
      X000328       3/28/00                   3,173   03/27/00   03/28/00
      X000329       3/29/00                   3,664   03/28/00   03/29/00
      X000330       3/30/00                   2,909   03/29/00   03/30/00

I also have seen a final rough draft of the IBM Redbook on GEAC/System 21
that is due to be published in August...  There is a fairly comprehensive
section in that book covering archiving...  This was one of the chapter
topics that I submitted when I was asked to submit ideas for the book...
JBA is unfortunately not strong suited when it comes to purging and
archiving data files...  As with most applications the file housekeeping is
like the documentation - an afterthought...  And in this case both the
functionality and the documentation are woefully inadequate...

I also have a technical document that was written by the Novi office (Dave
Barry & friends) that has some references to file housekeeping that may be
helpful...

Good luck...








"Allen, Stu" <sallen@fellowes.com> on 07/10/2000 05:48:22 AM

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The "operations guide" is pretty good (now available on the JBA Offline
CD),
as is the normal paper manual.  These together should broadly give you what
you need.
As far as system manager files are concerned, add the following commands to
your dayend:
Application Manager dayend         CALL PGM(IPGAMP4/XA803CLP)
Common Functions dayend       CALL PGM(IPGCFP4/ICF706CL)
Clear Management History      CLRMNGHST KEEP(7)
Clear MM Error Log                 CLRPFM (IPGCFF4/APG99PHY)
Clear CF Error Log                 CLRPFM (IPGCFF4/ICF98PHY)
Clear MM Log                       CLRMNGLOG  KEEP(7)
Clean User Allocations             CLNUSRALC
All once a week, except CLNUSRALC (i'd recommend running this at least once
a day, as JBA options don't seem to release licences properly [one way to
make money i suppose]).  This should cut down on the amount of stuff you're
storing, although most are purge rather that archive.
Regards,
Stuart
Stuart Allen
European Systems Analyst,  Fellowes
mailto:sallen@fellowes.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   OleBlighty [SMTP:oleblighty@home.com]
> Sent:   Saturday, July 08, 2000 2:18 AM
> To:     JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com
> Subject:     Re: Can anyone comment on the reliability of the archive
> utilities in JBA?
>
> Dan,
>
> I do not believe there are any utilities within System Manager to archive
> records. A record is written to APG50PHY every time the user signs on and
> every time he submits a job.  The records, I believe, are not required
> once
> each job has completed.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dan Thomas <DThomas@lpw-mdi.com>
> To: <JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 5:29 PM
> Subject: Can anyone comment on the reliability of the archive utilities
in
> JBA?
>
>
> > We really haven't archived any application or system data.  For
example,
> our
> > system file APG50PHY/IPGAMF4 is over 50 mb.  This file seems to contain
> > current company settings for each user.  Surely, this data doesn't need
> to
> > be retained forever.  Can someone please tell me where the utilities to
> > delete this data are located?  Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Overall, we're not very knowledgeable about System Manager utilities.
> We
> > got some training from JBA on this, but at the time we were so focused
> on
> > just going live that we didn't worry about anything that wasn't needed
> at
> > that time.  Any suggestions for training or reference manuals would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Dan Thomas
> > Sr. VP Information Systems
> > Medical Distribution, Inc.
> > 4500 Progress Blvd.
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> > Phone (502) 454-9013 ext. 120
> > email  DThomas@lpw-mdi.com
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