• Subject: FW: JBA Warehouse Offerings
  • From: Dan Thomas <DThomas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:06:07 -0500

In response to John Manilla (Sierra Consultants):

In the "all updates to JBA are passed through the standard System/21
programs so that all JBA validation and configuration rules are applied"
part of your message, I assume your reference is to those JBA functions that
have background update processes (such as warehouse process list
confirmations and warehouse confirm ship).  While I am a Viewpont user, I
mentioned your company (trying to be fair).  I think your message pretty
much sums up the strengths of your system, but does imply that Viewpoint
suffers from some of the shortcomings you address.  Viewpoint does not
require the "PC in the middle" and utilizes standard JBA programs for all
updates.  Viewpoint does not, however, offer any type of off-line operation.
It would depend on the company whether they could truly take advantage of
any off-line functionality.  With the reliability of the AS/400, I would see
this as an advantage mainly where someone is operating over a WAN with low
reliability.  On the other hand, Viewpoint is available on any scanning
device that offers 5250 emulation.  When we talked about your product
several months ago, CLASS/400 offered off-line operation only on the
Intermec Antares series.   In summary, I think both Nutech Viewpoint and
Sierra Class/400 are solid products.

I really didn't mean to start a non-JBA vendor specific thread here.  I've
yet to have anyone answer my question about JBA warehousing packages.  To
see why I'm confused as to whether there is another JBA offering, follow
this link
http://jbaworld.com/services/customer/content/uksigs/distribution/index.htm
and view the Powerpoint presentation for "JBA Automated Logistics".  Maybe
this will explain to everyone why I'm confused as to what JBA is offering.
I guess I just need to give it and and assume if JBA had something worth
buying in this area, my JBA salesperson would be trying to sell it to me,
right?

Dan Thomas
Sr. VP Information Systems
Medical Distribution, Inc.
4500 Progress Blvd.
Louisville, KY  40218-5058
Phone (502) 454-9013 ext. 120
email  DThomas@lpw-mdi.com


-----Original Message-----
From: John Manilla [mailto:jmanilla@sierraltd.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 12:10 PM
To: JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: JBA Warehouse Offerings


As an alternative to Viewpoint you can look at CLASS/400 with the JBA
Interface.  This product is produced and sold by Sierra Consultants located
in Grand Rapids, Michigan.  see: http://www.sierraltd.com  or
mailto:ContactUs@sierraltd.com

The CLASS/400 is a direct TCP/IP client to the AS/400 without the use of
PC's between the scanners and the AS/400.  The product also uses no 5250
Emulation Sessions which allows the scanning to continue if the network or
the AS/400 is offline.  The scanned data is passed to data queues on the
AS/400 and all updates to JBA are passed through the standard System/21
programs so that all JBA validation and configuration rules are applied
before the data is updated in the System/21 database.
The users receive direct feedback on the scanners if something is invalid,
so that corrective action can be taken at the point of the scan.


Sincerely,

John Manilla, CPA, CDP                  mailto:JManilla@sierraltd.com

President and COO
                                     
Sierra Consultants Ltd.                   Tel: (616) 530-9393 x1101
2976 Ivanrest - Suite 200               Fax: (616) 530-6311
Grandville, MI 49418  USA             URL: http://www.sierraltd.com

****************************************************************
AS/400 Data Collection using Client/Server Technology without PC's in
the middle or the overhead of 5250 Sessions!
****************************************************************
Sierra Consultants Ltd. is a Premier Solutions Partner with Intermec 
Technologies, a Business Partner with JBA International and 
specializes in AS/400 based Client/Server Data Collection Solutions 
(without the necessity of a PC-in-the-middle or the AS/400 overhead 
of 5250 Terminal Emulation).  Sierra re-sells the Intermec line of 
products exclusively and has installed most of the Intermec line, 
including Janus, Antares, Norand, MaxiLAN and Intermec Printers. 

If you would like assistance with AS/400 based Data Collection, contact 
me at mailto:JManilla@sierraltd.com
****************************************************************

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Thomas [mailto:DThomas@lpw-mdi.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 4:52 PM
To: 'JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: JBA Warehouse Offerings


We are running generic JBA V3.5.0.  Viewpoint utilizes any scanner that
offers TCP/IP 5250 emulation to the host AS/400.  The users run Viewpoint
RPG programs that provide initial validation and small screen oriented
changes to standard JBA screens and also provide additional audit trails.
The actual file updates occur using a Viewpoint engine service program that
opens virtual terminal windows and "stuffs" keystrokes into the standard JBA
programs.  This means all JBA validations and any program mods are not
bypassed.  From what I can tell, this may be the way other products like
Jacada and Electran interface with AS/400 packaged programs. Overall,
Viewpoint provides good automated data collection on top of existing JBA
warehousing and inventory control programs.  I really wouldn't put it in the
category of a sophisticated warehouse management system which is mostly
paperless, directs workers and interleaves picking, putaway, location
changes, counts, etc.

Dan Thomas
Sr. VP Information Systems
Medical Distribution, Inc.
4500 Progress Blvd.
Louisville, KY  40218-5058
Phone (502) 454-9013 ext. 120
email  DThomas@lpw-mdi.com


-----Original Message-----
From: rstearns@mpire.net [mailto:rstearns@mpire.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 11:27 AM
To: JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: JBA Warehouse Offerings




What JBA vertical are you running...
We installed the Drinks vertical and have started warehouse installation
several
times (to many road-blocks to list).  The bar-code options were very limited
and
we ended doing a large amount of modifications to automate our custom
process.
Is the viewpoint product TCP/IP direct to the JBA module or is there a
translator/batch process in between?
Thanks,
Royce Stearns
516 SE Morrison
Suite 202
Portland Oregon 97214


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Is JBA Viewpoint (from NuTech) the "official" JBA warehouse automation
(bar-code scanning) offering?   Is anything else marketed in the US or
Europe?  I know Sierra Consultants also has a system that works with JBA.
Anything else?  I'm just looking for some feedback as to JBA's direction in
this area.  We use JBA's warehouse management module, use Viewpoint to a
limited degree and are looking to do a full rollout of Viewpoint.

Dan Thomas
Sr. VP Information Systems
Medical Distribution, Inc.
4500 Progress Blvd.
Louisville, KY  40218-5058
Phone (502) 454-9013 ext. 120
email  DThomas@lpw-mdi.com

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