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I think the problem is not so much in the number of RPG or Cobol developers
compared to Node.js, Python, PHP, but in the use that RPG programmers make
of the forums and the network in general.
Midrange.com mailing lists are great, and a bunch of other forum websites
are great too ... every day we can learn something new ... but let's look
at the names of those who answer the posts or even those who ask questions:
I can count up only 200/300 active users (maybe something more but not a
great number!)
Where are the other at least 100,000 RPG / Cobol developers in the World?
They are not on Stack Overflow
Maybe they are overwhelmed with their monolithic RPG programs from 20 years
ago?
or they just do things always the same way because "it's always been that
way" and they don't need new answers?

Let me tell you about my latest experience with forums and new stuffs
Last week I followed a Koen Decorte's webcast at "IBM User Group Day" where
he showed a practical use of Node.red (Open Source Package) and IBM i,
great session, thank Koen
I wanna try it:
15 minutes to install Node.red on my IBM i 7.3 partition (thanks IBM for
YUM and NPM)
1 or 2 hours to understand how it works (and some swear words too!)
a thousand of Google's searches to learn some Javascript (for an RPG
developer) and I found all the answers I was looking for thanks to the
forums (and some other swear words again)
And I got it ... my first simple Warehouse's Dashboard, running on I,
always updated through DB2 for i node module
Here are some screens:
https://imgur.com/nVuAGaj
https://imgur.com/JMBgMeo
https://imgur.com/GHdLDmN

We are a great community all over the world but we must involve all other
hidden IBM i developers




Il giorno ven 29 mag 2020 alle ore 17:34 Bob Cagle <bcagle@xxxxxxxxxxx> ha
scritto:

I just read this summary of the 2020 Slack Overflow annual survey:


https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/stack-overflow-developer-survey-2020-programming-language-framework-salary-data/

There are no references to RPG or Cobol.

There are a couple of references to DB2: it ranked second to last in least
used database. And if you look at the full survey, DB2 ranks #1 as the
most dreaded database.

I know we are a small community, but I'm surprised that neither RPG nor
Cobol were referenced at all. Could be that hardly any of us hang out on
Slack Overflow?

So does the rest of the world not consider us "real" developers because we
aren't using what they consider "real" languages?

I remember taking a class on C++ back in the mid-90s with a co-worker of
mine. The first day the instructor let us know that C++ was a "real"
language, and nothing like those "sissy" languages like Basic or RPG. My
co-worker immediately raised his hand and let him know that we were both
RPG programmers. The instructor told us that we would have a hard time in
his class then. We both passed with perfect scores; proved him wrong.

Just curious - anyone else ever experienced this type of bias?

Bob Cagle
IT Manager
Lynk




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