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The PEX will trace all the way up to the statement number in the HLL
program.
Here's where a copy of iDoctor really helps since IBM already has done the
query work.
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Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects
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From: RPG400-L <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Jon Paris
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 10:00 AM
To: Rpg400 Rpg400-L <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: IBM Trace Utility (Was How to display which debug views are
available.)
It sounded as if the MI layer was all he was seeing Jim - it is the HLL
level he needed and didn't seem to be seeing.
Jon Paris
www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com
On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:58 AM, Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
A PEX data collection will give you all the information you are after,then use PDI or your own SQL to list off the exectution list. It will even
show MI layer if you need it.
Debugger APIs. The problem is that for a very large program the trace may
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Jim Oberholtzer
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From: RPG400-L <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Robert
Rogerson
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2018 6:50 PM
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: IBM Trace Utility (Was How to display which debug views are
available.)
Hi all,
I have a working prototype of my trace utility working by calling the
take several minutes.
Mark Waterbury suggested I look at IBM's trace utilities.ran it..
I wanted to trace program execution for program BF2100 and here is how I
- Add a traced filterlike HLL statements or flow. There is a lot of data created but it all
ADDTRCFTR FTR(BF2100FLT) PGMFTR(*EQ ((BF2100)))
- Start the trace
STRTRC SSNID(*GEN) JOBTRCTYPE(*ALL) TRCFTR(BF2100FLT)
- End the trace
ENDTRC SSNID(*PRV) DTALIB(TSXROB)
I checked all the files it created but didn't see anything that looked
seems to be at a lower level than a HLL language (in this case RPG).
Does anyone know if IBM's trace utilities can be used to expose programexecution at a HLL language level?
The major reason I'm investigating this avenue is that IBM's trace utilityruns so much faster than my trace utility using debugging APIs.
I just don't want to be working on developing a utility and using thewrong tool.
Thanks,<https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/ssw_ibm_i_73/apis/QTERTVMV.h
Rob
On 12/2/2018 10:39 AM, Robert Rogerson wrote:
Thanks Bruce, Jon and Mark (who replied off list).
To give a little background on what I'm doing. I'm writing a trace
utility for tracing program execution. As you(s) mentioned I do this
by calling the Debugger APIs. When I call the QteRetrieveModuleViews
and the *LISTING, *SOURCE or *COPY views are not available I can not
"trace" the execution of this module.
I was wondering if there was a way, before calling the
QteRetrieveModuleViews in my trace utility, to check if I should even
attempt to trace the program or give the user a message that the
program needs to be recompiled with DBGVIEW(*LIST/*SOURCE/*COPY)
Wait, Vern just replied...
Thanks,
Rob
On 12/2/2018 10:00 AM, Jon Paris wrote:
Bruce beat me to it - the debug APIs are the way to go. That is
what RDi uses under the hood.
There's a decent explanation of the way all the APIs fit together
here:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/ssw_ibm_i_72/apiref/a
p
iexusdeb.htm
<https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/ssw_ibm_i_72/apiref/
a piexusdeb.htm> that is for 7.2 but nothing has changed as far as I
know. Penton published an article years ago showing how to use these
to retrieve source from a program compiled with listing view - sadly
that has gone th way of all of their content.
Jon Paris
www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com
On Dec 2, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Bruce Vining <bruce.vining@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I am currently not connected to an i (though working on it) so I
can't say that I've used it, but you may want to take a look at the
Retrieve Module Views (QteRetrieveModuleViews) API
tm>.
questions.--The documentation indicates that this API returns (along with a
whole lot of other things):
View type. The type of view. The view type can be one of the
following
values:
**TEXT* This is a view where text comes from files or text supplied
by the processor.
**LISTING* This is a view where text comes entirely from text
supplied by the processor.
**STATEMENT* This is a view consisting of statement identifiers.
All modules have a statement view.
Bruce
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 8:41 AM Robert Rogerson
<rogersonra@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Brian is correct. I'm trying to find if the object itself has an--
indication of the available debug views without entering debug. So
far I haven't found on Google nor the IBM site indicating if this
is possible. I was hoping that someone on this list may know of a
way.
Thanks,
Rob
On 12/2/2018 7:02 AM, Brian Parkins wrote:
Indeed. But Rob's original question was how to find this outoptions,
_without_ initiating a debug session in RDi or STRDBG. Any ideas?
Brian.
On 01/12/2018 22:34, Marvin Radding wrote:
Enter debug and press F15. It will show a list of the view
available.
Thanks,
Marvin
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-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Brian Parkins
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 1:43 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
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Subject: Re: How to display which debug views are available.
I think Paul is suggesting the use of the DSPPGM command. Press
ENTER until the *MODULE detail panel is displayed, then type
option 5).
against the Module(s).
However, this shows only,
Debug data . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : *YES
- and doesn't answer Rob's question. How to tell WHICH debug
views, (*LISTING, SOURCE, etc.) are available. DSPPGM does not
provide this information, as Rob has already discovered.
I've no idea how you would find this out without initiating a
debug session in RDi or STRDBG. The System APIs don't appear to
help either.
Brian.
On 01/12/2018 21:04, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:
DSPPGM--
Then
5=Display description
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Robert Rogerson
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 3:48 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
Subject: How to display which debug views are available.
Hi all,
Can I tell from an object which is already created which debug
views are available?
I understand that when creating an object you may specify which
debug views (*LISTING, *SOURCE, *COPY) you wish to make
available. But if the object (in my case a program) has already
been created how do I tell which views are available. I've
tried dsppgm but I don't see any view information. The only
way I've found is through starting debug on the program and
pressing F15=Select view .
Thanks,
Rob
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