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Well, that certainly explains a lot. .-)

Jerry C. Adams
Although present on the occasion, I have no clear recollection of the events
leading up to it. -Winstom Churchill (regarding rumors of his legitimacy)
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon Paris
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 10:52 AM
To: Rpg400 Rpg400-L
Subject: Re: RPG easier/harder to use than other languages?

This is quite an enjoyable and informative read
https://medium.com/@cscalfani/goodbye-object-oriented-programming-a59cda4c0e
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<https://medium.com/@cscalfani/goodbye-object-oriented-programming-a59cda4c0
e53>

And this
https://content.pivotal.io/blog/all-evidence-points-to-oop-being-bullshit
<https://content.pivotal.io/blog/all-evidence-points-to-oop-being-bullshit>


Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

On Jul 4, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Richard Schoen
<Richard.Schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Do you have some examples of how these former disgrunted OO devs have
found OO programming to be flawed ?

Just curious since your statement seems pretty generic.

Regards,

Richard Schoen
Director of Document Management
e. richard.schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
p. 952.486.6802
w. helpsystems.com

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message: 2
date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 01:37:25 +0000
from: Justin Taylor <JUSTIN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: RPG easier/harder to use than other languages?

I'm seeing a number of disgruntled former OO devs these days claim that OO
is flawed in concept. Personally I haven't done enough to have my own
opinion. I have seen some crazy designs where people try to force a strict
"text book" OO solution over problems where that concept doesn't really seem
to fit.


-----Original Message-----
From: Raul A Jager W [mailto:raul@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2017 5:32 PM
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: RPG easier/harder to use than other languages?

Lots of business needs are better served by OLTP and relational database
rather than OO. Sure, for the user interface OO is great, so use javascript
in the browser and RPG in the server. Do not use 5250. Do not use "screen
scrapers". Develop for web.

How do you classify a language as modern or not? The OO model is quite
old. Java is showing its age to. Python is from the 80s.

Is OO the right tool for everything? Interpreted languages require very
careful testing, and control over the input.

When there are lots of transactions, a compiled language like RPG or Cobol
will enable the same processor to handle easily 20 times more transactions
than the same code in PHP. Moore law does not work anymore, the speed has
remained at 4 GH since the last 10 years or more. It is far more expensive
to set up 20 servers rather than the difference of cost between developing
in PHP or RPG.






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