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Henrik,

The link to Liam's VS Code extension is now in the comments of the article.

http://www.mcpressonline.com/programming/rpg/rational-developer-for-i-alternatives

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-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henrik Rützou
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 8:40 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries) <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: cvtrpgfree converter

Jon,

the problem with Limona (in my situation) is that is priced per.
customer/system/Pxx and I have 20 customers where I want to convert some of my own code ad'hoc to /free and even may want to place the converted sourcecode in the IFS so I may use my preferred editor (VS Code) to maintain it.

The big problem with most free converters is the move/movel instruction. It is imho much better to leave them "as is" that try to make a conversion that may or may not work. However a precompilation that creates an array of field definitions will make it possible to convert many of these instructions even though it makes the conversion a little more tricky because you need to set library lists etc. in order to do the precompilation.

Between my last post and yours I actually wrote a 'precompiler' that extracts the field definitions into an array I just have to put the module into the converter and then see where it brings me. When I'm finish I will send the author the code or just use my own implementation of his code (and mine).

However before that I will wait until Brian May's college Liam Allan comes up with in his "ILE tool for VS Code" extension and what it will require (maybe he uses node.js to piece it all together).

On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 1:14 AM, Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

There are a number of settings that govern how "aggressive" it is in
converting. And you can choose which opcodes you convert and at what level.

Basically it achieves a comprehensive conversion by running the
compiler if needed to derive the data types and sizes of all fields
involved. It then uses the appropriate assignment/BIF/whatever to
achieve the same result. You can see a couple of examples on this page.
http://www.linomasoftware.com/products/rpg-toolbox/rpg-
conversion-wizard/free-form-example <http://www.linomasoftware.
com/products/rpg-toolbox/rpg-conversion-wizard/free-form-example> It
can work just on the green screen but for and extra $500 you get
unlimited licenses for the RDi plug-in and it is a really useful addition to RDi.

Linoma does an excellent job as does the Arcad tool. The only reason
I use Linoma more is that Arcad is oriented toward converting a whole
source whereas Linoma let's me be selective and convert just part of a
program,


Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

On Jun 9, 2017, at 3:54 PM, Henrik Rützou <hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jon,

What does Limona do with move/movel?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

So you have it but never updated it? Why not find out how much to
update
it?

Craig's stuff isn't perfect and misses some things. You may well
"spend"
more to modify/fix the problems than to pay Linoma for an update.
the Linoma tool is also great in RDi because you can just highlight
a small chunk of D-specs (for example) and have it convert that. It
is also very flexible in terms of how aggressive the conversion is.


Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

On Jun 9, 2017, at 3:32 PM, broehmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Jon,
Several months ago you brought that up about Linoma. We have it
from way back when. It's a version from pre-2006 and it has
error(s)
that
appears
to contain "unconvertable" modules. I'm assuming it probably is
V5R1 stuff.
And yes it's cheap to buy, but then so is my management. I'm just
happy
we get Rdi. I'm starting to look at Craig's stuff.

Bill





From: Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rpg400 Rpg400-L <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 06/09/2017 02:25 PM
Subject: Re: cvtrpgfree converter
Sent by: "RPG400-L" <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Check if you have the Linoma Toolbox installed Bill. It does a
fantastic
job of this kind of stuff by using the compiler generated stats to
determine how to handle MOVE ops.

If you don't have it consider getting it - dirt cheap and well
worth double.


Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:27 PM, broehmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Tested what it does to MOVEL and it pretty much fails. Char to
Num is straight Char = Num and Num = Char statements are
generated.
No warning and no indication other than the compile ultimately
fails with right side doesn't = left.

I'll pass on this one. Not useable for all the crap code I have
to live with.

Bill





From: Henrik Rützou <hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "RPG programming on the IBM i / System i"
<rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 06/09/2017 08:38 AM
Subject: cvtrpgfree converter
Sent by: "RPG400-L" <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Does anyone tried this - it seems to convert most.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/cvtrpgfree/

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