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Love RDi. Filters to group the source you're working with. (Having one source file helps but not enough, really at least for me).
And being able to have two tabs or windows open, one to Definition specs and the other to the Calcs. Debug, "color coding"...

-aec+-

-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Buck Calabro
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 6:32 PM
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RDi vs SEU (was: Standard source file names?)

On 4/1/2015 5:30 PM, John Yeung wrote:
I don't have the exact time frames to hand, but there was a
multi-year period when IBM bundled all the compilers and all the
development tooling into one price. If you bought a compiler you got
all the other compilers, SEU, PDM and WDSC all together.

One thing I still am not sure I ever found a concrete answer to: Back
then, did they actually LOSE MONEY compared to what they would have
gotten had WDSC been a separate-cost item?

If the answer is yes, then, well, I guess I really can't make much
further argument about the WDSC bundling experiment. If the answer is
"no" or "there's no way to know" then for me, the question is:

OK, so then what's wrong with a low adoption rate?

Nothing, per se. The low adoption rate speaks only to the fact that this market genuinely feels that SEU is Plenty Good Enough. That's not the case for me. If we had XEDIT (also green screen) instead of SEU, I might not have switched to RDi. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEDIT

I maintain that the issue was never about the cost - everybody pays for SEU and SEU is pants. The issue was never about SEUs superior capability because the most primitive version of Code/400 had regular expression search, colour tokens, sane copy/paste keys, lots of code on the screen - SEU never had even those minimalist functions. So why did they not try something else - something IBM was pushing? Because SEU is Good Enough for what they do. Now, with this as a working hypothesis, what has changed about that population cohort that would cause them to move from SEU today? Because that cohort doesn't even bother with the
90 day trial and if we like car analogies, who would turn down 90 free days in a Tesla S? People who like their AMC Pacer, that's who.

Don't get me wrong; if one likes one's Pacer and that Pacer does everything one asks of it, and one brings home the groceries with it, one may never miss how the Tesla feels, and that's perfectly fine. But that's not me. Much as I loved my Pacer, I need something a bit better; at least something with airbags and a trailer hitch.

If you (or IBM or whoever) cares about adoption rate, and you're NOT
losing money, then why NOT just put it out there?

If I remember it correctly, the issue was that customers who wanted to keep on using only RPG, PDM, and SEU wanted cheaper licences - in effect, they wanted to stop paying to develop Cobol and WDSC when they weren't going to ever use either.

In other words, it was a political-marketing decision, not an economic one.

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