Re: Standard source file names?

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Standard source file names? (Charles Wilt)
2. Re: Standard source file names? (Booth Martin)
3. RE: Standard source file names? (Gary Thompson)
4. Re: Standard source file names?
(Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc.)
5. RE: Standard source file names? (Marc Couture)
6. RE: Standard source file names? (Marc Couture)
7. Re: Standard source file names? (Vernon Hamberg)
8. Re: Standard source file names? (Vernon Hamberg)


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message: 1
date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:56:38 -0400
from: Charles Wilt <charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Standard source file names?

That's one of those "religious" questions...

I've got a mis-mash.

I can tell you that at least one (if not all) commercial CM tools don't
care :)

Charles

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Bob Cagle <bcagle@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

A friend of mine has gifted me a copy of his home-grown change management
tool, but it requires the standard IBM names for source files, and has
hard-coded them in all of the tool's programs.

He was shocked when I informed him that I don't use the standard names,
and so this tool won't work as is.
I was shocked that he didn't allow for different names since the original
intent was to sell this tool on the open market.

So I'm curious - what is your stance on source files? Do you use the
standard IBM convention QDDSSRC, QRPGSRC, QRPGLESRC, etc., etc.?

Or custom names?

Single or multiple files for different source types?

Why?



Thanks

Bob Cagle
IT Manager
Lynk, Inc.

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message: 2
date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:19:02 -0500
from: Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Standard source file names?

My preference is one source file for related source. QARSRC (Accounts
Receivable), QAPSRC (Accounts Payable), QBRMDEVSRC (my development
source).

I really do like having the DSPF source and the CL source, and the RPG
source all right together, no bouncing around.

On 3/30/2015 3:00 PM, Bob Cagle wrote:

A friend of mine has gifted me a copy of his home-grown change

management tool, but it requires the standard IBM names for source files,
and has hard-coded them in all of the tool's programs.

He was shocked when I informed him that I don't use the standard names,

and so this tool won't work as is.

I was shocked that he didn't allow for different names since the

original intent was to sell this tool on the open market.

So I'm curious - what is your stance on source files? Do you use the

standard IBM convention QDDSSRC, QRPGSRC, QRPGLESRC, etc., etc.?

Or custom names?

Single or multiple files for different source types?

Why?



Thanks

Bob Cagle
IT Manager
Lynk, Inc.

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message: 3
date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 20:13:43 +0000
from: Gary Thompson <gthompson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Standard source file names?

We use SRC as our standard source file name and combine "CL" and "RPG"
program, data file, display file, SQL and etc. in one source file.
We have copies of SRC for production, test and various projects.

I tend to group source members by an "application id" which I put in the
first few characters of the source member text.
For example, Text for EDI 856 ASN source members all start with "EDI856:"

BUT, we never had the luxury of a change management system, so we made-up
"standard rules" like this . . .




-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob
Cagle
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 2:00 PM
To: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Standard source file names?

A friend of mine has gifted me a copy of his home-grown change management
tool, but it requires the standard IBM names for source files, and has
hard-coded them in all of the tool's programs.

He was shocked when I informed him that I don't use the standard names,
and so this tool won't work as is.
I was shocked that he didn't allow for different names since the original
intent was to sell this tool on the open market.

So I'm curious - what is your stance on source files? Do you use the
standard IBM convention QDDSSRC, QRPGSRC, QRPGLESRC, etc., etc.?

Or custom names?

Single or multiple files for different source types?

Why?



Thanks

Bob Cagle
IT Manager
Lynk, Inc.

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message: 4
date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 18:45:13 -0400
from: "Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc."
<mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Standard source file names?

At least one of the commercial packages I have worked with uses
non-standard source file names. Any CMS he would attempt to sell to
customers with source like that would have to support non-standard names.

Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Bob Cagle <bcagle@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----
To: "RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Bob Cagle <bcagle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 03/30/2015 04:00PM
Subject: Standard source file names?

A friend of mine has gifted me a copy of his home-grown change management
tool, but it requires the standard IBM names for source files, and has
hard-coded them in all of the tool's programs.

He was shocked when I informed him that I don't use the standard names,
and so this tool won't work as is.
I was shocked that he didn't allow for different names since the original
intent was to sell this tool on the open market.

So I'm curious - what is your stance on source files? Do you use the
standard IBM convention QDDSSRC, QRPGSRC, QRPGLESRC, etc., etc.?

Or custom names?

Single or multiple files for different source types?

Why?



Thanks

Bob Cagle
IT Manager
Lynk, Inc.

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message: 5
date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:10:28 -0400
from: Marc Couture <couturem@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Standard source file names?

I uses standard source file names. It allows to have the same display file
name and the same RPG program name.

-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark
Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc.
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:45 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: Standard source file names?

At least one of the commercial packages I have worked with uses
non-standard
source file names. Any CMS he would attempt to sell to customers with
source
like that would have to support non-standard names.

Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Bob Cagle <bcagle@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----
To: "RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Bob Cagle <bcagle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 03/30/2015 04:00PM
Subject: Standard source file names?

A friend of mine has gifted me a copy of his home-grown change management
tool, but it requires the standard IBM names for source files, and has
hard-coded them in all of the tool's programs.

He was shocked when I informed him that I don't use the standard names, and
so this tool won't work as is.
I was shocked that he didn't allow for different names since the original
intent was to sell this tool on the open market.

So I'm curious - what is your stance on source files? Do you use the
standard IBM convention QDDSSRC, QRPGSRC, QRPGLESRC, etc., etc.?

Or custom names?

Single or multiple files for different source types?

Why?



Thanks

Bob Cagle
IT Manager
Lynk, Inc.

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message: 6
date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:14:29 -0400
from: Marc Couture <couturem@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Standard source file names?

I really don't like having all sources together, with RDI no need to bounce
all over the place...


-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Booth
Martin
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 5:19 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: Standard source file names?

My preference is one source file for related source. QARSRC (Accounts
Receivable), QAPSRC (Accounts Payable), QBRMDEVSRC (my development source).

I really do like having the DSPF source and the CL source, and the RPG
source all right together, no bouncing around.

On 3/30/2015 3:00 PM, Bob Cagle wrote:

A friend of mine has gifted me a copy of his home-grown change management

tool, but it requires the standard IBM names for source files, and has
hard-coded them in all of the tool's programs.

He was shocked when I informed him that I don't use the standard names,

and so this tool won't work as is.

I was shocked that he didn't allow for different names since the original

intent was to sell this tool on the open market.

So I'm curious - what is your stance on source files? Do you use the

standard IBM convention QDDSSRC, QRPGSRC, QRPGLESRC, etc., etc.?

Or custom names?

Single or multiple files for different source types?

Why?



Thanks

Bob Cagle
IT Manager
Lynk, Inc.

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message: 7
date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 18:42:18 -0500
from: Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Standard source file names?

Hi Jerry

I find that using a change management system such as Turnover or
Implementer or Aldon takes care of the "jumping around", because they
pull source from disparate "sources" into what amounts to a unified work
space.

Having said that, I understand the draw of single source files - I am a
bit leary of this, due to the need at times for different record lengths
- many source types CAN use whatever "long-enough" record length, others
specify an exact length - QMQRY source says 91 - QMFORM source says 162
- admittedly, those are not on everyone's horizon.

Anyhow, just some thoughts.
Vern

On 3/30/2015 3:11 PM, (WalzCraft) Jerry Forss wrote:

I switched to a single source file many years ago.
All my programs follow the same naming convention like APIACTJOBC,

APIACTJOBP APIACTJOBR.

They are always grouped together.

I hated jumping around changing the source file.

-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob

Cagle

Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 3:00 PM
To: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Standard source file names?

A friend of mine has gifted me a copy of his home-grown change

management tool, but it requires the standard IBM names for source files,
and has hard-coded them in all of the tool's programs.

He was shocked when I informed him that I don't use the standard names,

and so this tool won't work as is.

I was shocked that he didn't allow for different names since the

original intent was to sell this tool on the open market.

So I'm curious - what is your stance on source files? Do you use the

standard IBM convention QDDSSRC, QRPGSRC, QRPGLESRC, etc., etc.?

Or custom names?

Single or multiple files for different source types?

Why?



Thanks

Bob Cagle
IT Manager
Lynk, Inc.

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message: 8
date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 18:44:00 -0500
from: Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Standard source file names?

Crazy for one = logical for another - what IS this world coming to?

:)

On 3/30/2015 3:52 PM, Alan Campin wrote:

I use one one source file name QSRCF. Crazy to use all those different
names and have to switch between them.
On Mar 30, 2015 1:48 PM, "James Rich" <james@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 30 Mar 2015, Bob Cagle wrote:

So I'm curious - what is your stance on source files? Do you use the

standard IBM convention QDDSSRC, QRPGSRC, QRPGLESRC, etc., etc.?

Or custom names?

Single or multiple files for different source types?

Why?

We use the standard IBM names for several reasons:

1. Many IBM commands already default to using them.
2. Different record lengths for different source types makes sense.
3. Improves organization for us. For example, a typical C open source
project might have header files in directories like config,

documentation

in doc, XML in xml, C code in src, etc. So splitting source code up
between several source files on the i seems logical.

James Rich

if you want to understand why that is, there are many good books on
the design of operating systems. please pass them along to redmond
when you're done reading them :)
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