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I was not referring to running a server farm and hosting anything my
customers wanted to run. I was talking about hosting an ERP application (or
a suite or apps) that I developed. I don't want to manage the hardware in
that case. I want the hardware to just be there and be scalable and be
reliable with as few sysadmins as I needed. I would put all my resources
into programmers and end user support staff.
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On Behalf Of john e
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:49 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
Subject: Re: Is RPG dying
AS/400 (IBM i) is a proprietary system, it is designed to be run without
attendance, and is vertically scalable.
This is much different than what is needed in "the cloud". Yes you need
scalability, endless scalability, i.e. horizontal and not vertical.
If you start a cloud business, would you REALLY go for "the i"....? I
mean, all costs considered. Because you really don't want to pay for a
system which is designed to run without operator / sys-admin. I mean, if
you start a clouyd business then managing the technical infrastructure is
your core competence. You can do that much cheaper using Linux boxes.
The business case for AS/400 is not to be used as a cloud platform (EBCDIC
anybody?).
If managing the IT infrastructure is your core business you don't pay IBM
lots of cash to do it for you (i.e. lease an AS/400). You CAN make a
cluster of Linux boxes just as resilient (or even more) than an AS/400. But
it takes expertise, and work, which you don't want in a normal business
setting. There you want an AS/400. AS/400 is out-of-the-box scalability and
stability. No expertise needed.
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Mike Cunningham <mike.cunningham@xxxxxxx
wrote:
If I had nothing today and was just starting a business (aprobably choose java or EGL as the language.
non-software development business) I would not choose any particular
hardware or OS or language as I would most likely just go 100% cloud
and let someone else worry about all that. If I was starting a
business that was going to provide cloud services I would definitely
go with the i platform because it will scale so nicely but would
My customers won't care as they only care about the end result and Imega package.
want my developers to be as productive as possible.
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From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of john e
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 7:31 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
Subject: Re: Is RPG dying
Joe said:
People get Perl jobs too. :) But to use the trite observation, if
you were building an application today would you use PHP as your
first choice? I wouldn't.
But the question was: would you choose the AS/400 (IBM i, pff) and RPG
(or just AS/400) as your (server) development platform, if you had a
choice, i.e. all things considered equal and no AS/400 already running
http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l.
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:
On 3/9/2012 1:53 AM, John Yeung wrote:
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Joewrote:
Pluta<joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I'll be happy to make a prediction. PHP is on a steady decline,You cite TIOBE, which shows PHP's trajectory as basically flat
has been for the last several years.
from sometime in 2004 through 2010, with a more noticeable decline
only in the last couple of years. (Contrast with Java, which has
been declining for at least a decade, even after adjusting for the
"Google revision" in 2004.)
Yes, the decline since, say, 2010 has been dramatic. Almost as bad
as Visual Basic.
You want to be current, learn C# or Objective-C.I think what these languages' TIOBE ratings show is that the .NET
and iPhone platforms are enjoying a lot of success right now.
I agree. I wrote about that nearly a year ago:
http://www.mcpressonline.com/programming/rpg/practical-rpg-the-futur
e-
of-rpg.html
You want to be last year's news, learn PHP or better yet Python.True. Though it sounds like Hans got his PHP job more recently
Scripting languages are sooooo 2006. :)
than that. At least we don't have to worry about RPG ever having
been or ever becoming a fad. :)
People get Perl jobs too. :) But to use the trite observation, if
you were building an application today would you use PHP as your
first choice? I wouldn't.
Joe
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