RE: Using QUSLOBJ API

Interesting wording. I'll agree that's what's stated, but I find it
difficult to believe you cannot backup a whole system containing more than
111,000 objects with a single SAVLIB *NONSYS. Maybe I'm wrong, but I
suspect that in this case, "one save operation" means one library.

Dennis Lovelady
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http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v7r1m0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fr
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mp%2Frzampoverview.htm


Table 1. Save and restore limits Save and restore limits Value
Maximum number of related objects that can be saved or restored in a

single

save operation Approximately 111 000

And, as Robert mentioned, members, keys, etc all add to the total.



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On

Behalf Of Robert Houts
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 4:24 PM
To: 'RPG programming on the IBM i / System i'
Subject: RE: Using QUSLOBJ API

While it's true that using a special value for the library, such as *ALL,
*ALLUSR, *LIBL, or *USRLIBL will most likely hit the size limit of a user
space, the OP was referring to one library, and it seems that everyone

else,

including you, were as well. This is why my post was limited to that.

The best way IMO to handle using any of the special values for processing
multiple libraries is to use two user spaces. One to get a list of

matching

libraries, and one to get a list of objects for each library, one library

at

a time. I use this approach in a utility program to get the list, and

then

add an entry to a user index for each object. My program then returns a
variable chunk of the static list to the caller. The caller can process
those object entries and then call my program to get the next chunk of the
static list (with an option to force the list to be rebuilt). It works

very

well and it's fast. It also assigns a list ID so that multiple lists can

be

generated.

By the way, IBM's documentation for QUSLOBJ does not indicate that generic
names are allowed for the library name. Because it does not say that it

is

allowed, I've never tried to use generic names for the library list with
that API. The approach I mentioned above does allow generic library names
because I use QUSLOBJ to get the list of library names that match the
library (specific, generic, or special value) requested.

The save/restore limit to which I was referring is regarding the number of
objects in a library, not the total number of objects in all libraries in
one save or restore request. After all, that is the point of this topic.

I

mentioned it because even though you can have up to "approximately

360,000"

objects in a library, you might not be able to save the library if the
number of internal objects exceeds the number allowed for a save and that
limit seems to be lower than "approximately 360,000". Remember that many
objects, especially physical files, consist of multiple internal objects,
all of which count toward the total.


-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Dennis
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 05:12
To: RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
Subject: RE: Using QUSLOBJ API

That's true as far as it goes, but seems to assume there's only one

library

of interest per call to QUSLOBJ. What about all objects in library

*ALLUSR,

or (gasp) *ALL? Even SAVRST has no problem with such lists (since it just
streams through the libraries one at a time. But a call to QUSLOBJ with
generic library name can easily run into these limits.
++
Dennis
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"Robert Houts" <rshouts@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You won't have to worry any time soon, because according to IBM's
maximum capacities documents the limit for the number of objects in a
library from
7.1 back to at least V4R5 (I didn't check back further) is
"Approximately 360,000". Also, it seems that the save/restore limits
further restrict that.



-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Dennis
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 09:10
To: RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
Subject: Re: Using QUSLOBJ API

Oh, good point, Vern. Luckily, I have all my personal bank account
information stored in one massive file member - rather than spread
about in emulation of the real world - so I think the number is fairly
safe. :)
++
Dennis
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conclusion."
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"Vern Hamberg" <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I don't know, Dennis, gotta be careful - you'll run out of space when
you have more than 559,240 objects in a library!!

;-)

Vern

On 9/19/2011 5:48 AM, Dennis Lovelady wrote:

What return format are you using? My solution is to use QUSLOBJ to

retrieve

only the minimal information (OBJD0100)... and then use QUSROBJD for

the

details. I have not run into space issues in this manner.

Dennis Lovelady
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through Congress.
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To the list,
I am trying to use the QUSLOBJ API and am only getting a "partial"

list on

the

retrievel of a library that contains almost 42,000 objects. When I

changed

the program from looking for *ALL object types to perform a loop

(selecting a

single object type one at a time), I still do not get all the *PGM

objects

which number over 30,000. The "magic" number where the job stops

is

29,119

objects.

Doe this API have a "continuation handle" or does anyone have a

better

idea on

retrieving all the objects - I am using the 0600 format to retrieve

the

data.

I believe that I am creating an extendable user space.

TIA...
Eric
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