Re: Adoption of RPG OA

[Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Roger

Since the developers watch this list, I'm glad you said this - and you 
might want to go to the COMMON site and enter a requirement to this 
effect. You don't need to be a member, just get a login there.

Vern

On 3/11/2011 11:42 AM, Harman, Roger wrote:
> If it was PTF'd back to 5.4 (if technically feasible), I think you might see a much higher interest in it.   Getting to 6.1 really is a hurdle for many of us.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Klement
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:28 AM
> To: RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
> Subject: Re: Adoption of RPG OA
>
> To begin with, it was something that could be accomplished (however
> awkwardly) using subprocedures instead of F-specs.  Second, IBM chose to
> charge extra for it and release it separately.  People evaluate it on
> whether it has/hasn't caught on, because it's not part of RPG, it's a
> whole separate product. Then, there's the controversy about whether (or
> not) an F-spec type file is really a good way to interact with a modern
> interface.  And, finally, a lot of the community has struggled to get to
> IBM i 6.1 or higher (vendor software hard to get for 6.1 for a long
> time, development tools more expensive, object conversion required), and
> IBM stupidly didn't make OA available for 5.4.
>
> Barbara and her team did a fantastic job on the technical aspects of it
> (IMHO), but as far as the business/sales/marketing point of view, IBM
> has screwed it up in pretty much every way.
>
>
> On 3/10/2011 8:49 PM, Lennon_s_j@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > RPG OA came out with a bang a year ago, and several vendors announced
> > tools, some of which looked very good.  But it seems to have been
> > relatively quiet since.  (Not to disparage articles by several people on
> > the list and discussions here...)
> >
> > But has there been any adoption of RPG OA and the 3rd party vendor
> > handlers and tools?  Is there a market developing that will sustain the
> > vendors?  Anyone actually using a 3rd party handler, or even installed
> > one for evaluation?
> >
> > Sam