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Oh, I agree wholeheartedly, Scott. Heck, I even bought (with my own cash) the book on PHP for IBM i programmers. However, every time I try to get into it (or things like journaling, better security, or anything that isn't directly related to the fire-of-the-day), there doesn't seem to be any allowance for time.

No, you get no argument from me about modernizing. On the other hand, as an example, six years ago I wrote the first subfile program they had ever seen here. Blew their socks off (relatively speaking). When I was hired, I was told my first task was to convert the 36E to native; that lasted about a week (maybe two).

And I don't fault the higher ups (who keep turning down my budget requests). Like a lot of other organizations we're watching every penny ("Penny wise, pound foolish" as the Brits say). And then there's, as mentioned, the time to learn even free/open source stuff like PHP, CGIDEV2, etc. Not that it seems that hard when you, Jon, or Paul give sessions on them, but it does take time, which with my backlog ain't available and still have any semblance of a life (not that I ever had one before).

Not ranting or cranky (though probably making a lot of lame excuses). Just bleeding all over my keyboard.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM System i Programmer/Analyst
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-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Klement
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:43 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
Subject: Re: Load-All Subfile Performance (Was: "Constant" performance question)

For the past 15 years or so, people have been talking about writing GUI
applications instead of 5250 ones.

For the past 10 years, we've been talking about web as the best way to
do that.

For the past 5 years or so, the discussion has been much more dire. If
we don't stop with the green screen stuff, and start showing modern
interfaces, this system is doomed.

I'm certainly NOT trying to offer you a suggestion of *how* to do it.
There are a lot of alternatives out there, and honestly, I've given up
caring which one you use. The point is: STOP WRITING GREEN SCREEN
STUFF! Good lord, setting standards for new green screen applications?
You've got to be kidding me.



On 2/18/2010 1:53 PM, Jerry Adams wrote:
Okay, Scott, I'll bite: What do you suggest?


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