RE: RPGV? -- RPG400-L

Know of any openings, in my pay range and geography? :-)

This occurs at every shop I have ever been at, there are those who are there for a paycheck and those who are there because they like/love what they do.

Duane Christen

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-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marc Couture
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:04 PM
To: 'RPG programming on the IBM i / System i'
Subject: RE: RPGV?

You better change shop !

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From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Christen, Duane
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:26 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
Subject: RE: RPGV?

Mark;

Im not offended, I see what John sees every day. We have 20 RPG programmers in this shop, most haven't learned any new RPG capabilities since they graduated, none are on any technical lists, and only 5 use WDSC/RDI/CODE.

There are only 3 other programmers here whose programming interest/knowledge is not pitiful IMO.

Duane Christen

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-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Mark Walter
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:46 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
Subject: RE: RPGV?

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm really taking offense to his [john e] broad characterization of RPG programmers...

Mark Walter
Business to Business Data Integration Specialist Certified IBM System i Specialist Paragon Consulting Services, Inc mwalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of john e
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:30 AM
To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: RE: RPGV?

Ok, maybe i encountered two, in my 20 yrs of RPG experience...

But i encountered many on this forum with (some) OO knowledge, or programming knowledge / interest in general.

This forum is in no way representative of RPG programmers.

I suppose that every knowledgable RPG programmer (i.e. is interested in programming in general) reads this forum.

The programming knowledge / interest of the average RPG programmer is embarrassing...

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:07:47 -0600
From: vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: RPGV?

John

You have encountered one now - who has known of that stuff for years.

;-)

john e wrote:

Namespaces / overloading has nothing to do with OO.
OO is all about encapsulation.
You don't encapsulate anything with namespaces/overloading.

OORPG... please

First try to make the current version of RPG a bit more sane...

And why bother, i never encountered an RPG programmer who even heard

about terms like "encapsulation" or even "variable scoping", let alone use it.

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