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Aaron,

A nice idea, however I think that the ones that are don't like to hand
over RPG documentation to the public space. First of all because this
would make maintenance of that documentation very complex (what if a new
version came out... Who would maintain all the pages with explanation
out there on wiki?). I like RPG documentation, have liked it from the
very beginning, going way back to 1989... Not the senior like others out
there, but getting gray at the edges ;^) .

Being exposed to the documentation of other languages and platforms
lately I know that IBM did a good job on it - you won't believe what I
have to wade through these days...-. Which takes me to the second
obstacle: handing it over to a wiki would mean that they would loose
control over the way it is written, and the correctness of the contents
-it is about 99+% correct at the moment- and I imagine they don't like
that; eventhough there is a remote chance that it might actually get
better.

All in all I think IBM will not take the step.

However, if more people would like to contribute to the wiki-site at
midrange (perhaps enriching it with concrete design patterns for
instance) the platform and RPG might even gain ground on other platforms
and languages.

Cor

-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of albartell
Sent: donderdag 9 augustus 2007 1:44
To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Who Knew You Could Do That... Was->RE: Dynamic 'callp'

Not to take away all the long hours of enjoyment of constantly updating
a moving target <wink>, but have you and IBM ever considered a larger
community effort?

One place where I have found great benefit to a formal manual
supplemented by community comments is the PHP language site. They have
the formal declaration for a particular function and then user comments
describing best practices, things to watch out for, alternatives, etc.

Take a look at the "round()" function here:
http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.round.php

Let's open the doors on RPG documentation and see where we can take the
next generation of it! Maybe we could do a trial run with
http://wiki.midrange.com/index.php/RPG to see how well it works in that
technology.

Would IBM allow the reference manual to be duplicated on midrange.com in
wiki form? Here is what I found for a copyright:
<snip>
C Copyright International Business Machines Corporation 1994, 2004. All
rights reserved. US Government Users Restricted Rights - Use,
duplication or disclosure restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with
IBM Corp.
</snip>

I think a lot of good things could come out of it for IBM too, like
having a solid place to go for reviewing how customers are using the
different API's and how the compiler team could make them better.
Granted this list works good for that too, but the posts aren't
monitored, modified and "honed" like a wiki environment is.

Thoughts?
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com


-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jon Paris
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:44 PM
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Dynamic 'callp'

"Speaking of "the redbook", what ever happened to the sequel.... uh...
refresh of that title?"

It is a very long story involving IBM legal - myself and Susan being
over committed - editors not being available once some of the text was
...

Net is that there are a few chapters in progress - have one with me on
this trip for final edit but haven't cracked it open yet. They will
likely appear as RedPieces at some point but I wouldn't hold my breath
waiting for an update of the book per se.


Jon Paris
Partner400
www.Partner400.com

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