RE: Web poll WDSCi / SEU / Code400 results after 146 respondents

Charles, thanks for the URL. I read it and I would like to make one comment.
The article says that they are not supporting Vista Home Premium version but
that's what I have and I have loaded the V5R4 iSeries Access and the
emulation side of things are work just fine. The iSeries Navigator is
another story. It will not make a connection. I have not check the PTF level
yet but that's next on my list of things to do.

If anyone has got the iSeries Navigator to work, I sure would appreciate
some feedback.

Jack Derham
Direct Systems, Inc

-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Wilt, Charles
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 7:33 AM
To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: RE: Web poll WDSCi / SEU / Code400 results after 146 respondents

Jack,

IBM supports Vista with the latest service pack for iSeries Access v5r4. 

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/access/supportedos.html

HTH,
Charles


-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of derhamj
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:44 PM
To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: RE: Web poll WDSCi / SEU / Code400 results after 146 respondents

Joe, there is no question that the design intent was to make a much better
product but the
implementation plan has left much to be desired. I have not open the new
onion - v7. Plan on doing
that after the 16th of March when the hard copy is supposed to be ready for
distribution. Any one want
to make bet on the March Madness (Happening in April) or whether the WDSC
team will make a clean
release. I have been collecting the messages about WDSC from the MidRange
lists for the last two years
and it really reads like a Mac Sinnott movie from the 20's.

I also have bitten the bullet with Vista and I can forget about having an
iSeries Navigator or WDSC in
that environment for some time. I believe the IBM current speak is that they
are not supporting Vista.
Hard to believe isn't it. 
I guess that old joke that IBM stands for "I Built Microsoft" is true
because with no support for
Vista they are obviously going to lose more market share and that gets right
into your and my pocket
book.

Have a nice day and Don't Forget to Celebrate the Irish on the 17th, Jack
Derham Direct Systems, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:30 PM
To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: RE: Web poll WDSCi / SEU / Code400 results after 146 respondents

From: derhamj

3-Cheers to Mr. Bob for speaking the truth - quick,dirty and with 
iSeries Access let's you do most of the stuff needed to generate a 
business application. Admittedly it is not in vogue but maybe that's 
because the youngsters don't know how to smoothly operate it or maybe 
the R&T boys of IBM are trying to be our "Big Uncle.

UPDDTA lets you do most of what you need to do in a business application.
The point is whether the tool is better, and hands down, WDSC is better than
SEU and PDM.  From syntax
highlighting to content assist to outline view to multi-library searches,
the capabilities of WDSC
make SEU look -- well, look like the 20-something software it is.  Wonderful
for its time, but
somewhat outmoded.

The misreading of the market by the people at IBM in no way diminishes the
superiority of the tool.
In my mind, there are very few people at IBM who understand the iSeries
community and the fact that we
are innovators, given the proper tools.  Unfortunately, suggesting that SEU
is a reasonable
alternative to WDSC helps the iSeries-challenged majority pigeonhole the
iSeries community as a bunch
of technological Luddites.

Joe


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