RE: Web poll WDSCi / SEU / Code400 results after 146 respondents

Jack,

IBM supports Vista with the latest service pack for iSeries Access v5r4. 

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/access/supportedos.html

HTH,
Charles


-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of derhamj
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:44 PM
To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: RE: Web poll WDSCi / SEU / Code400 results after 146 respondents

Joe, there is no question that the design intent was to make a much better 
product but the
implementation plan has left much to be desired. I have not open the new onion 
- v7. Plan on doing
that after the 16th of March when the hard copy is supposed to be ready for 
distribution. Any one want
to make bet on the March Madness (Happening in April) or whether the WDSC team 
will make a clean
release. I have been collecting the messages about WDSC from the MidRange lists 
for the last two years
and it really reads like a Mac Sinnott movie from the 20's.

I also have bitten the bullet with Vista and I can forget about having an 
iSeries Navigator or WDSC in
that environment for some time. I believe the IBM current speak is that they 
are not supporting Vista.
Hard to believe isn't it. 
I guess that old joke that IBM stands for "I Built Microsoft" is true because 
with no support for
Vista they are obviously going to lose more market share and that gets right 
into your and my pocket
book.

Have a nice day and Don't Forget to Celebrate the Irish on the 17th, Jack 
Derham Direct Systems, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:30 PM
To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: RE: Web poll WDSCi / SEU / Code400 results after 146 respondents

From: derhamj

3-Cheers to Mr. Bob for speaking the truth - quick,dirty and with 
iSeries Access let's you do most of the stuff needed to generate a 
business application. Admittedly it is not in vogue but maybe that's 
because the youngsters don't know how to smoothly operate it or maybe 
the R&T boys of IBM are trying to be our "Big Uncle.

UPDDTA lets you do most of what you need to do in a business application.
The point is whether the tool is better, and hands down, WDSC is better than 
SEU and PDM.  From syntax
highlighting to content assist to outline view to multi-library searches, the 
capabilities of WDSC
make SEU look -- well, look like the 20-something software it is.  Wonderful 
for its time, but
somewhat outmoded.

The misreading of the market by the people at IBM in no way diminishes the 
superiority of the tool.
In my mind, there are very few people at IBM who understand the iSeries 
community and the fact that we
are innovators, given the proper tools.  Unfortunately, suggesting that SEU is 
a reasonable
alternative to WDSC helps the iSeries-challenged majority pigeonhole the 
iSeries community as a bunch
of technological Luddites.

Joe


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