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Emails short? Yes. I don't like reading banter. My opinion? Of course, why is your email made up of scientific facts? Normally in these forums every word is simply opinion/conjecture. How many email responses begin with "I'm not sure but..." or "I don't know but..." sounds like person opinion to me. The only fact is, the # $ @ are meaningless in terms of standard definition for variable names. In some languages, the "at sign" @ is often used as an indication that the variable is a pointer. In Perl, $$$ seem to be favored. The use or non-use of these symbols doesn't mean you are a bad programmer. The fact that everyone is a bad programmer means you and I are bad programmers. <tic> -Bob Cozzi www.RPGxTools.com RPG xTools - Enjoy programming again. -----Original Message----- From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael_Schutte@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:27 AM To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries Subject: RE: EXTFLD Question Bob, Well you know, that's fine. You can have that opinion. But in my opinion... that is something that YOU can live with. It doesn't hurt our business to have the "@". The "@" is not synonymous with System/3 RPGII legacy code. Cuz, after all, it is "MMVI". I haven't written in the language you speak of, yet I still use the "@". I had no previous knowledge that "@" was used in RPGII. I would think that since it's 2006, if you are present with code from us, those of us on this list, that it's not legacy code. Maybe, I didn't get enough sleep, but it appears to me that your trying to push your own personal belief on to the rest of us. What did the "@" every do to you? Do you have nightmares about them? The last I checked, the "@", in America didn't hurt me. I don't consult, the code isn't written for other companies, etc... I only have 4 years experience in business programming... I try to follow our standards most of the time and it appears that the "@" has been used a lot (since the RPGII days). I can see your side of it, as you write code for others. I appreciate your help with the understanding I needed with the EXTFLD. I know that you are very knowledgeable, however, sometimes your responses come across as being very short with us. Maybe, your just trying to keep your emails short... who knows. That's the problem with text communication. *rant over* Michael Schutte "Bob Cozzi" <cozzi@xxxxxxxxx> Sent by: To rpg400-l-bounces@ "'RPG programming on the AS400 / midrange.com iSeries'" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc 04/24/2006 10:44 Subject PM RE: EXTFLD Question Please respond to RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries <rpg400-l@midrang e.com> When I see "MMVI" I know it is 2006, but do all others who come after me? Maybe. When I see an @ or $ or # in a variable name, I see System/3 RPGII legacy code that's been ported and my first instinct is to delete it and rewrite it. -Bob Cozzi www.RPGxTools.com RPG xTools - Enjoy programming again. -----Original Message----- From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael_Schutte@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:23 PM To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries Subject: RE: EXTFLD Question Okay thanks... that's what I was looking for. RBFUTUSEA is defined in a file on the FSPEC. As for the "@", I'm just copying code from other renames, keep it uniform. But why does it suck so bad? It's not a big deal. When I see the "@", I immediately know that the field is program described. Also, the last time I checked, you can't begin a field with a number. Maybe that's changed with V5R3. Michael Schutte "Bob Cozzi" <cozzi@xxxxxxxxx> Sent by: To rpg400-l-bounces+ "'RPG programming on the AS400 / michael_schutte=b iSeries'" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> obevans.com@midra cc nge.com Subject RE: EXTFLD Question 04/24/2006 04:16 PM Please respond to RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries <rpg400-l@midrang e.com> Once you override the external field name using EXTFLD, that name no longer exists in the program. If you are able to refer to RBFUTUSEA in your code, then you have it defined elsewhere in the program, probably via a file or another data structure. In either case, RBFUTUSEA does not exist in the 12DBRC data structure ("at signs" in names suck, by the way) and therefore moving anything into it, does not get reflected in FutureUseA or its overlaid subfields. -Bob Cozzi www.RPGxTools.com RPG xTools - Enjoy programming again. -----Original Message----- From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael_Schutte@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:11 PM To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: EXTFLD Question D @12DBRC E DS EXTNAME(BEF012) D FutureUseA E ExtFld (RBFUTUSEA) D ProdPlantYN 1 OverLay(FutureUseA:1) D FutureUseA2 9 OverLay(FutureUseA:*NEXT) We have a future use field in a file that we are going to begin to use. I only need to use one character of it. Anyway, I was under the impression that I can use FutureUseA in the program as it was RBFUTUSEA, so that when an update was executed the RBFUTUSEA field will be changed to what was in FutureUseA. To break up the field, I used the Overlay for ProdPlantYN. When the program executes, ProdPlantYN is populated to 'Y' and while in debug mode, FutureUseA = 'Y ', however, This value doesn't get updated to RBFUTUSEA. Am I suppose to move it there? I thought the purpose of ExtFld was to rename the field for the program? Is there something I'm doing wrong? NOTE: BEF012 is defined in the FSPEC, but there is NOT a prefix on it. Thanks in advance. Michael Schutte -- This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l. -- This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l. -- This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l. -- This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l.
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