Re: Bob's letter on V5R4 RPG stuff

["Brad Stone" <brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Creating is fairly easy with a toolkit (you forgot the eRPG
SDK in your list <lol>).  But then again, you need the
knowledge of XML in the first place... no tool gives you
that.. That comes through (OH NO!) education and practice!

I didn't catch the original thread, but is part of this XML
support going to be native reads, writes, etc to IFS files?
 At a low level that would be a great addition.  And
"generic".  

But then again, with a small amount of knowledge, time, and
ILE you can write it yourself (or take it from one of the
many examples published and online).

Parsing as well is only "hard" because it's new to most.
 Parsing hierarchical structures (or "trees") is something
new that we just have to learn and RPGers aren't exposed to
unless it's through comp sci classes or self study.  A few
more string BIFs would help.

The final product hopefully will be built so that it will
be expandable to future technologies.  In other words, a
lot of low-level simple task features that when put
together make XML handling easier.

On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:11:49 -0600
 "Bob Cozzi" <cozzi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> To be honest, XML is being used for WAAAAAYYYY too much
> more than it was
> ever intended. I think this is mostly due to our culture
> of black and white
> technology decisions in a world of grey (and color). 
> XML is not "the" answer. It is simply one tool in the
> every evolving and
> changing technology of software. 
> RPG already had support for Java, CL, C and somewhat,
> C++. Why not XML? It
> already has HTML support via CGIDEV2 and now CGILIB in
> RPG xTools, so why
> not XML? 
> The hard thing about XML is reading the file. The not as
> hard part of XML is
> creating it. I've had a CvtToXML() subprocedure in RPG
> xTools for over 2
> years. Call it, pass a DS and a file name, and you get
> back the data in XML.
> 
> IBM did a great job giving RPG IV XML read/parse support
> in February 2006
> instead of cause everyone to write their own interfaces
> that may or may not
> work in most situations. Even worse would be IBM giving
> us XML support in
> 2007 or 2008 or later after we've all, already written
> our own XML
> interfaces.
> 
> George, Barbara and the nameless/faceless others who
> pushed this through... 
> Very Nicely Done!
> 
> 
> -Bob Cozzi
> www.RPGxTools.com
> RPG xTools - Enjoy programming again.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Aaron Bartell
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:11 AM
> To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'
> Subject: RE: Bob's letter on V5R4 RPG stuff
> 
> >What happens when XML goes away for the next flavor?
>  I'd rather have
> generic tools than specific tools which can be built
> externally from RPG
> using RPG and those generic tools.
> 
> I am sure there will be a next technology to take XML's
> place someday, but
> the good thing is that XML is being deeply ingrained into
> the big players
> which *should* guarantee a certain amount of shelf life.
> 
> There actually already are other standards out there that
> aim to do the same
> thing as XML and were created because of XML's bloated
> tags.
> 
> Here are a couple of the alternatives:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSON
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAML
> 
> Aaron Bartell
> http://mowyourlawn.com
> 
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