RE: Weird Websphere Studio side effect

Ron, that is an excellent answer but the real questions are does using all
of these new features increase your productivity and does the resulting code
accomplish it purpose faster and with less errors. We sometimes get lost in
the mystery or new adventures to a point where we are not accomplishing our
basic mission. 

Having said that, I would be right there next to you during the wonderful
trips into "never never land" because that's what keeps us interested in our
business. What's that old saw say: The Only Difference Between Men and Boys
is the Price of OUR Toys".

Jack Derham
Direct Systems, Inc.  

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Not for the good programmers who want to increase their productivity that 
is.
IMHO, they should whip anyone who uses a GOTO and Z-ADD's in new 
development now.
I've always felt one should adapt and progress, or get out of the way of 
the ones that are trying.
I'm not saying I'm 100% current, but in new development programs, I try to 
do new things, like use the IBM Api's, use all BIF's, etc.  No more 
indicators if I can help it. etc etc.

Ron Power
Programmer
Information Services
City Of St. John's, NL
P.O. Box 908
St. John's, NL
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709-576-8132
rpower@xxxxxxxxxx
http://www.stjohns.ca/
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10 years? How many years has RPG IV been out and the mass of programmers
are still using MOVE and Z-ADD and multiplying 6.0 numeric date fields
to change date formats in programs...some that still use the cycle?
Yeah...WDSC adoption may take a while.

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: Weird Websphere Studio side effect
> From: directsystemsinc02 <directsystemsinc02@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Fri, January 27, 2006 8:58 am
> To: "'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Thanks for the enlightenment! It's still showing high on the score card 
for
> fix requirements and apparent user confusion. I suppose in ten years or 
so
> it might just settle down. :) :)
> 
> Jack Derham
> Direct Systems, Inc.
> 
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> 
> Jack,
> 
> I don't know much about Java, however I think it's something like this. 
> You fix one tight little part.  But to distribute it you put it into a 
jar 
> file (or some such animal) that contains the whole package and send that 

> out.  Nearest I can figure.  Once you get past the one big upgrade the 
> other upgrades are more manageable.
> 
> Rob Berendt
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> 
> I know that WDSC is the wave or craze of the future but I have been 
> keeping
> score on the number of problem issues that have been posted on this list 

> and
> they certainly seem excessive. I like new toys as much as the next 
person
> maybe even more but WDSC just feels like a pig in a tutu. When I loaded 
> 6.0
> I thought that was a never ending task but then I immediately had to 
> upgrade
> it and that was a task forever plus. 
> 
> We all bitch at MS for their software glitches but at least then seem to
> have solved the problems of software distribution. The upgrades from IBM
> today seem to be as bad as the old s/38 upgrades from the PID in Sawmill
> County.
> Why can't they replace they current approach of "BIG" upgrades at a
> relatively low frequency to one of "small" upgrades at a higher 
frequency.
> Maybe the basic design has a flaw of very large granularity and this 
from 
> a
> company that has been breaching modularity even since ILE hit the 
street. 
> I
> guess some of the people in the church don't listen to the sermons.
> 
> OK, I have vented and feel better!
> 
> Jack Derham
> Direct Systems, Inc.
> 
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> rob@xxxxxxxxx
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> 
> It sounds like two issues:
> - Source member mangled beyond compilability
> - Reference to a previously undefined variable
> - /free stuff
> 
> Originally I thought it was believed that the source was mangled BECAUSE 

> of the conversion to /free.  Evidently it is a separate issue.  I have 
> seen some other posts on obscure member definition issues that may be 
> cleared up.  Maybe they'll work for you.
> 
> Now, James, I am not saying this to be a stickler.  But I think if you 
do 
> take it to the WDSC list, or open a pmr with IBM, you'll get a better 
> response from IBM.  IBMers who care about WDSC do monitor that list 
rather 
> 
> faithfully.
> 
> I still think that, at least part of, it has to deal with something done 

> by someone who doesn't want to 'fess up to it.
> 
> Rob Berendt
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