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Ron, that is an excellent answer but the real questions are does using all of these new features increase your productivity and does the resulting code accomplish it purpose faster and with less errors. We sometimes get lost in the mystery or new adventures to a point where we are not accomplishing our basic mission. Having said that, I would be right there next to you during the wonderful trips into "never never land" because that's what keeps us interested in our business. What's that old saw say: The Only Difference Between Men and Boys is the Price of OUR Toys". Jack Derham Direct Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RPower@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:48 AM To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries Subject: RE: Weird Websphere Studio side effect Not for the good programmers who want to increase their productivity that is. IMHO, they should whip anyone who uses a GOTO and Z-ADD's in new development now. I've always felt one should adapt and progress, or get out of the way of the ones that are trying. I'm not saying I'm 100% current, but in new development programs, I try to do new things, like use the IBM Api's, use all BIF's, etc. No more indicators if I can help it. etc etc. Ron Power Programmer Information Services City Of St. John's, NL P.O. Box 908 St. John's, NL A1C 5M2 709-576-8132 rpower@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.stjohns.ca/ ___________________________________________________________________________ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm. - Sir Winston Churchill michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 2006/01/27 10:47 AM Please respond to RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: Weird Websphere Studio side effect 10 years? How many years has RPG IV been out and the mass of programmers are still using MOVE and Z-ADD and multiplying 6.0 numeric date fields to change date formats in programs...some that still use the cycle? Yeah...WDSC adoption may take a while. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: Weird Websphere Studio side effect > From: directsystemsinc02 <directsystemsinc02@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Fri, January 27, 2006 8:58 am > To: "'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Thanks for the enlightenment! It's still showing high on the score card for > fix requirements and apparent user confusion. I suppose in ten years or so > it might just settle down. :) :) > > Jack Derham > Direct Systems, Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: rpg400-l-bounces+derhamj=bellsouth.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces+derhamj=bellsouth.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > rob@xxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:07 AM > To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries > Subject: RE: Weird Websphere Studio side effect > > Jack, > > I don't know much about Java, however I think it's something like this. > You fix one tight little part. But to distribute it you put it into a jar > file (or some such animal) that contains the whole package and send that > out. Nearest I can figure. Once you get past the one big upgrade the > other upgrades are more manageable. > > Rob Berendt > -- > Group Dekko Services, LLC > Dept 01.073 > PO Box 2000 > Dock 108 > 6928N 400E > Kendallville, IN 46755 > http://www.dekko.com > > > > > > directsystemsinc02 <directsystemsinc02@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent by: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 01/26/2006 06:27 PM > Please respond to > RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To > "'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > cc > > Fax to > > Subject > RE: Weird Websphere Studio side effect > > > > > > > I know that WDSC is the wave or craze of the future but I have been > keeping > score on the number of problem issues that have been posted on this list > and > they certainly seem excessive. I like new toys as much as the next person > maybe even more but WDSC just feels like a pig in a tutu. When I loaded > 6.0 > I thought that was a never ending task but then I immediately had to > upgrade > it and that was a task forever plus. > > We all bitch at MS for their software glitches but at least then seem to > have solved the problems of software distribution. The upgrades from IBM > today seem to be as bad as the old s/38 upgrades from the PID in Sawmill > County. > Why can't they replace they current approach of "BIG" upgrades at a > relatively low frequency to one of "small" upgrades at a higher frequency. > Maybe the basic design has a flaw of very large granularity and this from > a > company that has been breaching modularity even since ILE hit the street. > I > guess some of the people in the church don't listen to the sermons. > > OK, I have vented and feel better! > > Jack Derham > Direct Systems, Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: rpg400-l-bounces+derhamj=bellsouth.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces+derhamj=bellsouth.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > rob@xxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:48 PM > To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries > Subject: RE: Weird Websphere Studio side effect > > It sounds like two issues: > - Source member mangled beyond compilability > - Reference to a previously undefined variable > - /free stuff > > Originally I thought it was believed that the source was mangled BECAUSE > of the conversion to /free. Evidently it is a separate issue. I have > seen some other posts on obscure member definition issues that may be > cleared up. Maybe they'll work for you. > > Now, James, I am not saying this to be a stickler. But I think if you do > take it to the WDSC list, or open a pmr with IBM, you'll get a better > response from IBM. IBMers who care about WDSC do monitor that list rather > > faithfully. > > I still think that, at least part of, it has to deal with something done > by someone who doesn't want to 'fess up to it. > > Rob Berendt > -- > Group Dekko Services, LLC > Dept 01.073 > PO Box 2000 > Dock 108 > 6928N 400E > Kendallville, IN 46755 > http://www.dekko.com > > -- > This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list > To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l > or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l. > > > > -- > This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list > To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l > or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l. > > > -- > This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list > To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l > or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l. > > > > -- > This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list > To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l > or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l.
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